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Don’t miss this game! UNCG poses more threats for us than any team in the SoCon. They are prone to wild swings, but do not quit. And they beat us 2 ½ times out of 3 last year. If there was ever a game that the Bucs could use fan support, this is it.

UNCG runs to extremes, beating NC State and losing to Presbyterian; coming within 6 of Wake Forest, and coming within 2 of losing at VMI in their most recent game.

They can give up a blistering offensive display in the first half to Wofford, and then shut them down to come back and win in Greensboro. Or they can blow a first half lead at VMI and have to scramble back to save a win. Clearly they are not dead because they play a bad half. You need to put a stake in their heart and play 2 good halves against them.

They have a better balance of decent front court size and skill and guard scoring than any other opponent we will face in the SoCon. And can be effective on both the defense and offensive ends.

The front court gives them a solid +6.0 rebound margin, first in the SoCon and 45th in D1. ETSU is 3rd in the SoCon at +2.7. Slim 6-10 200 Rs-So James Dickey is long and athletic, scoring 8.7 ppg on .505 with 0 three’s, 8.6 rebounds, 2.2 blocks and 2.4 t.o.’s in 28.9 minutes. 6-9 250 Rs-Sr Jordy Kuiper adds muscle and long range shooting, scoring 5.9 points on .333 FG% with .333 from 3 (1.2 makes), 5.5 rebounds, in 26.5 minutes. 6-8 215 So Kyrin Galloway is long and slim with 5.5 points on .630. He might make a 3 every 3 or 4 games on .308, but reliably grabs 4.5 rebounds in 18.4 minutes.

The wild card for them in the front court is former walk-on Garrett Collins, a pudgy 6-5 200 something guy with a top knot who can come off the bench and hit 2 or 3 threes before you know what happened (.360, 9-25) – or do nothing at all, averaging only 6.3 minutes. You’ve got to defend him at the perimeter

Their strong point is Defense – holding opponents to .414 FG% compared to .417 for ETSU – 1st and 2nd in the SoCOn. They hold opponents to .299 3pt% with 5.9 makes (second in the SoCon to Furman’s .297, 20th in D1) compared to .324 and 7.5 makes for the Bucs. They block 3.1 shots to ETSU’s 3.9, again, 2nd and 1st in the SoCon. They grab 9.1 steals to the Bucs 8.6 (2nd and 3rd in SoCon; about 14th and 30th in all D1) and have a t.o. margin of +1.80 to ETSU’s +3.25 (3rd and 4th in SoCon, with the Bucs about 40th in D1). That defense is what enabled them to put the brakes on Wofford’s shooters and gradually claw back into that game. We can expect 2 of the best defenses in the SoCon on display Thursday, two of the better defenses in D1 (KenPom rates ETSU 55 and UNCG 79 among D1 defenses).

Offensively ETSU pushes the tempo more (78.0 points per game to 73.6) and makes a higher 2 point FG% (1st in conference and 35th in D1 with a 55.5% 2 point%, which has gone up to a whopping 62.5% over the last 3 conference games, 7th in all D1 for the last 3 games. UNCG is a mediocre 48.8% 2 point%, 208th in D1). UNCG makes a better 3 point percentage (3rd in SoCon .365 with 10.1 makes, compared to 8th in conference .342 with 7.4 makes for the Bucs). But the Bucs are improving here: in conference games only, the Bucs are a surprising 2nd in conference (behind only Wofford) .491 with 9.3 makes, while UNCG is a 6th in conference .353 with 9.0 makes. Really, you could look it up: http://www.soconsports.com/fls/4000/soco...nfonly.htm That is a stunning 4th in all D1 over the last 3 games, although still behind Wofford, which is in 3rd for those games with an even .500. https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...-point-pct

This is a big thing, since it seems that the Bucs are beginning to erase their biggest statistical weakness: inability to hit the 3. With 3 point shooting in conference going this way, it is not surprising that the results of games have also been going the Bucs’ way.

6-3 Jr Guard Francis Alonso, a genuine Malaga Boquerón, is everything that he was last year with blistering 3 pt shooting off screens and non-stop motion, and clever moves around the basket (18.4 points on .456 from 3 with 3.8 makes per game, 2nd to Fletcher Mcgee). They miss Diante Baldwin, especially his scoring and to a lesser extent defense at the guard position. 6-0 187 Sr PG Demetrius Troy and 6-3 195 So Malik Massey are pretty much what they were last year with Troy doing the bulk of the ballhandling for 23.9 minutes (3.6 assists, 2.2 t.o.’s, 1.4 steals). Massey adds 5.2 points and 1.2 rebounds in 18.3 minutes of chippy play, shooting .367 from 3 (0.7 makes). 6-0 Freshman PG Isaiah Miller reminds me a little of Sheldon Cooley playing 14.5 minutes, scoring 7.1 on .528 FG% (but only 1-7 from 3) and grabbing 1.5 steals.

6-6 205 Marvin Smith is kind of an x factor who can be productive (10.9 ppg on .375 FG%, .318 from 3 (1.8 makes) and 4.7 rebounds in 25 minutes), or disappear for long stretches.

They’ll slow the tempo and throw a couple varieties of press at us – a ‘lite’ variety to take seconds off the clock, slow the tempo and deprive us of time to set the offense, and a more high octane one aimed at turnovers and steals. We did poorly against the press in the Samford game, and had trouble with the UNCG press last year. I would bet that UNCG is spending a lot of time devising variants to hit us with. And I'd be pretty confident that Forbes is preparing to meet the same.

This is a very different ETSU team than last year – more balanced on offense, more consistent on defense and stronger in the post. But I still think that UNCG poses more threats for us than any other team in the SoCon.

I’d expect a roller coaster with plenty of action and lots of twists and turns. This should be a barn burner with UNCG never dead till they’re staked through the heart. Here’s hoping this game gets the fan support it deserves.
If I’m not mistaken, this is also a white out game. So bleach those white ETSU shirts so we can blind them from the stands. LOL

Students won’t officially be back until next week, but there are plenty of local enough ones to encourage to come back to town for the night. Pester any students you know and invite all your friends. We need Freedom Hall rockin to keep UNCG from any ideas of revenge from last year’s SoCon championship game. I’m sure the athletic department knows this needs to be a sell out or nearly so, and they will be pushing for folks to show up, but let’s do our part as well.
They are the most unlikable team in the conference. They play a cheap, gimmicky style of basketball that puts pressure on refs to make lots of calls they wouldn’t normally make. Hoping ETSU is on their game and gives them the beating they deserve.
We ought to change the intro video to end with Jay's audio of us going dancing from the tourney last season. Then we should back that up by going on a 12-0 run to start the game and crush their souls!

But seriously a white out? I don't own a white shirt, and you rarely ever see an ETSU white shirt being sold. Just seems like an odd promotion to me.

This game, along with Wofford and Furman to close out the season, are the most important home games of the season and I too hope for a good crowd. I wish this game was on a Saturday and it would be a sure sell out.
(01-07-2018 04:22 PM)etsubuc Wrote: [ -> ]We ought to change the intro video to end with Jay's audio of us going dancing from the tourney last season. Then we should back that up by going on a 12-0 run to start the game and crush their souls!

But seriously a white out? I don't own a white shirt, and you rarely ever see an ETSU white shirt being sold. Just seems like an odd promotion to me.

This game, along with Wofford and Furman to close out the season, are the most important home games of the season and I too hope for a good crowd. I wish this game was on a Saturday and it would be a sure sell out.

We sold out two midweek home games last year so I have hope. The difference is one of those games was against Tennessee and the other took place while students were here. Student attendance Thursday, as others have mentioned, is going to be the vital ingredient to Thursday’s attendance. Should they reduce the student section to only the lower level Thursday in the event all other seats get sold?
(01-07-2018 04:22 PM)etsubuc Wrote: [ -> ]But seriously a white out? I don't own a white shirt, and you rarely ever see an ETSU white shirt being sold. Just seems like an odd promotion to me.
I know the home game against UTC is a Gold Out and someone else is a Blue Out. I guess they were struggling for another promotion for this one. Maybe they will have special shirts like they had at the first football game or something?
A well balanced, perceptive analysis of ETSU from a UNCG fan. It is a shame that he had no replies and only 52 views.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/uncgfans...f74dee4b94
Must take care of business. We can’t afford to lose at home in conference this season.

I have to leave town Tues-Wed and could be delayed in my return. I’d hate to miss this one!
(01-08-2018 10:10 AM)BigIslandBuc Wrote: [ -> ]A well balanced, perceptive analysis of ETSU from a UNCG fan. It is a shame that he had no replies and only 52 views.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/uncgfans...f74dee4b94

The kid has a very nice brief summary, but goes on about ETSU's offense. The most impressive thing, and the most consistent thing all season, has been the DEFENSE. The Bucs offense, and it's propensity for runs, starts with defense, steals and turnovers.

At first I thought that it was odd that a pretty perceptive observer would focus on the Bucs offensive prowess. Then it struck me - he's been focusing on ETSU's play in the SoCon, the last 3 games. And in those 3 games, the Bucs offense has been at a pretty stunning level of efficiency. I found a good stat site that let's you isolate those 3 games and separate 2 and 3 point percentage. Here's what it shows.

This year the Bucs have been scoring at a very good 55.5% from 2, which is 35th in D1 and 1st in the SoCon, just ahead of Furman with 55.3%. But change the focus to SoCon games only, the last 3 games, and ETSU leaps up to 62.5%, 7th in all D1! https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...-point-pct

Even more remarkable is the Bucs 3 point % over those 3 games. The Bucs have been lagging all year in that department, and are still a mediocre .351, 167th in D1. But in the last 3 games the Bucs have leapt up to .491, 4th in D1 over that brief period, although still behind Wofford at .500. https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basket...-point-pct

It's a very strong offensive improvement in conference. But still based, I think, on good defense.
Could be posted elsewhere — too lazy to search. Go Bucs!!


http://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25.php
(01-08-2018 06:54 PM)Buc66 Wrote: [ -> ]Could be posted elsewhere — too lazy to search. Go Bucs!!


http://www.collegeinsider.com/mens-mid-major-top-25.php

One spot ahead of Furman, I love it! Deny the purple reign.
(01-07-2018 03:29 PM)swvabucsfan Wrote: [ -> ]UNCG runs to extremes, beating NC State and losing to Presbyterian; coming within 6 of Wake Forest, and coming within 2 of losing at VMI in their most recent game.

The link to poor performances on the road seem to be lifeless road gyms. Presbyterian & VMI were virtually empty. The game at Liberty was similar too. The only reason that wasn't another road loss was Alonso making a couple of prayers to get things going into the overtimes. But G sleep walked through 35 minutes of that game too.
I doubt that they'll be troubled by a lifeless gym at Freedom Hall.
The keys here are If ETSU can sustain the 3 point shooting that they've put up in the first 3 games. They were always a good 2 point shooting team this season, but when they shoot it from the outside they are very, VERY good. UNCG's key will be surviving the run and being able to punch back. It's something I've not seen a conference team do to ETSU yet. Once they put a team down 12-15 points, no one has showed the ability to make a legit run at them.

Both of these teams are really good home teams. So this appears to be destined for a home and home split. But we'll see.
(01-09-2018 09:44 AM)swvabucsfan Wrote: [ -> ]I doubt that they'll be troubled by a lifeless gym at Freedom Hall.

Agreed. Think this is going to be a sellout?
(01-09-2018 09:52 AM)dashspartan Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-09-2018 09:44 AM)swvabucsfan Wrote: [ -> ]I doubt that they'll be troubled by a lifeless gym at Freedom Hall.

Agreed. Think this is going to be a sellout?
Just a guess,
Close to it, but students aren’t back yet——that section could be low attendance
(01-09-2018 09:51 AM)dashspartan Wrote: [ -> ]The keys here are If ETSU can sustain the 3 point shooting that they've put up in the first 3 games. They were always a good 2 point shooting team this season, but when they shoot it from the outside they are very, VERY good. UNCG's key will be surviving the run and being able to punch back. It's something I've not seen a conference team do to ETSU yet. Once they put a team down 12-15 points, no one has showed the ability to make a legit run at them.

Both of these teams are really good home teams. So this appears to be destined for a home and home split. But we'll see.

That's what the Spartans did against Wofford - survived the first half run, and used their excellent defense to hold the Terriers at bay until the offense could put them back on top.

It's also what Xavier did to the Bucs.
(01-09-2018 11:12 AM)swvabucsfan Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-09-2018 09:51 AM)dashspartan Wrote: [ -> ]The keys here are If ETSU can sustain the 3 point shooting that they've put up in the first 3 games. They were always a good 2 point shooting team this season, but when they shoot it from the outside they are very, VERY good. UNCG's key will be surviving the run and being able to punch back. It's something I've not seen a conference team do to ETSU yet. Once they put a team down 12-15 points, no one has showed the ability to make a legit run at them.

Both of these teams are really good home teams. So this appears to be destined for a home and home split. But we'll see.

That's what the Spartans did against Wofford - survived the first half run, and used their excellent defense to hold the Terriers at bay until the offense could put them back on top.

It's also what Xavier did to the Bucs.

As you pointed out, the one thing UNCG hasn't had happen to them is truly get knocked out and not get up. UVA got them down by about 20, before they made a run at them and got it down to 5 or 6. Wake had them down by 16-17 before they got it back to 1. The lack of a will to fight back was a big problem with Miller's first 4 teams at G. And it's mostly a forgotten concept now. It still happens occasionally (see Chattanooga last year) but when it does it's more of an anomaly

The bigger problem with them has been in games where they race out to double digit leads. Presbyterian, VMI, and UNCA were all games where they were up by 11 or more at the under 16 TO. If I was a Bucs fan, I'd feel more uneasy being up 10 early then down 10.
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