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Anybody catch the Bears game last weekend? I couldn't happen to think of Wolfe when I was watching this Cohen kid. He's small like Wolfe, 5′ 6″ and 179 lbs and the way he runs reminds me so much of my days watching Wolfe at NIU.

Couldn't help but think what if Wolfe was given a better opportunity when he was drafted, either with the Bears or another team. A team that used him to his strengths. Cohen seems a little faster than Wolfe but they both have that quickness and elusiveness. He reminds me of Darren Sproles as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POTLTpOrUl8

Gee, why didn't they make Cohen continually run straight into the line like they did with Wolfe?


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Wolfe never had the acceleration or top end speed that Cohen does. Wolfe relied a little more on power and subtle agility. It was a great skill set for the college game, Cohen is a much better fit for the NFL.

(09-13-2017 07:38 PM)Dog Fan Wrote: [ -> ]Gee, why didn't they make Cohen continually run straight into the line like they did with Wolfe?


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Wolfe beefed up and added too much weight imo since they used him like he was Ironhead Heyward. A slimmer Garrett was one one of the best college football players ever.

(09-13-2017 07:50 PM)prairiedawg Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-13-2017 07:38 PM)Dog Fan Wrote: [ -> ]Gee, why didn't they make Cohen continually run straight into the line like they did with Wolfe?


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Wolfe beefed up and added too much weight imo since they used him like he was Ironhead Heyward. A slimmer Garrett was one one of the best college football players ever.

lol-Iron Heyward is a great football name.

(09-13-2017 07:48 PM)tubaguy21 Wrote: [ -> ]Wolfe never had the acceleration or top end speed that Cohen does. Wolfe relied a little more on power and subtle agility. It was a great skill set for the college game, Cohen is a much better fit for the NFL.

Huh??? Wolfe ran a 4.39 40 at pro day. 2.51 20-yd dash and 1.46 10-yd dash, compared to 4.42, 2.59 and 1.54. And he had very good acceleration.

The difference is that the coaches then had no idea how to use a little guy. Plus the Bears had an atrocious offensive line when he was there.

(09-13-2017 07:50 PM)prairiedawg Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-13-2017 07:38 PM)Dog Fan Wrote: [ -> ]Gee, why didn't they make Cohen continually run straight into the line like they did with Wolfe?


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Wolfe beefed up and added too much weight imo since they used him like he was Ironhead Heyward. A slimmer Garrett was one one of the best college football players ever.

Game has changed Red Grange would not even be drafted this era..(ask an old timer who Red Grange was)

(09-13-2017 08:31 PM)NIU007 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-13-2017 07:48 PM)tubaguy21 Wrote: [ -> ]Wolfe never had the acceleration or top end speed that Cohen does. Wolfe relied a little more on power and subtle agility. It was a great skill set for the college game, Cohen is a much better fit for the NFL.

Huh??? Wolfe ran a 4.39 40 at pro day. 2.51 20-yd dash and 1.46 10-yd dash, compared to 4.42, 2.59 and 1.54. And he had very good acceleration.

The difference is that the coaches then had no idea how to use a little guy. Plus the Bears had an atrocious offensive line when he was there.

ding ding ding

correct

Hub Arkush once said that If Wolfe played now he'd be a stud because of the different offenses. Of course going to the Bears hurt him too.

Cohen gets thrown around and battered (like wolfe), but can break a tackles with his quickness and power. Wolfe had good speed (not pro breakaway though) but not the same quickness and definitely not the open field power. Wolfe could not break tackles like this kid and didn't have the east west ability. Nowhere near as dynamic. He was easily overpowered.

There was a reason he didn't catch on elsewhere.

Great in college does not always translate into the pros.

(09-13-2017 10:14 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote: [ -> ]Cohen gets thrown around and battered (like wolfe), but can break a tackles with his quickness and power. Wolfe had good speed (not pro breakaway though) but not the same quickness and definitely not the open field power. Wolfe could not break tackles like this kid and didn't have the east west ability. Nowhere near as dynamic. He was easily overpowered.

There was a reason he didn't catch on elsewhere.

Great in college does not always translate into the pros.

I remember one play in particular for Wolfe and the Bears. He caught the ball in the short flat, had a blocker who had a tackle engaged. Wolfe ran right past the defender except he stuck out his arm and stopped Wolfe in his tracks. Yes, a 1-arm tackle in the open field. To me that is the reason why he didn't have more success.

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(09-14-2017 08:48 AM)Teamduh Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-13-2017 10:14 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote: [ -> ]Cohen gets thrown around and battered (like wolfe), but can break a tackles with his quickness and power. Wolfe had good speed (not pro breakaway though) but not the same quickness and definitely not the open field power. Wolfe could not break tackles like this kid and didn't have the east west ability. Nowhere near as dynamic. He was easily overpowered.

There was a reason he didn't catch on elsewhere.

Great in college does not always translate into the pros.

I remember one play in particular for Wolfe and the Bears. He caught the ball in the short flat, had a blocker who had a tackle engaged. Wolfe ran right past the defender except he stuck out his arm and stopped Wolfe in his tracks. Yes, a 1-arm tackle in the open field. To me that is the reason why he didn't have more success.

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Yep. I'm not sure what happened to Wolfe when he got to the Bears, but he would go down from the slightest of contact. While I agree the Bears used him incorrectly, he was nothing like the back he was in college.

I remember 3 specific plays for Wolfe. 2 awesome screens where he tore off 20+ yard receptions, 1 against the packers and 1 against the saints.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBQnOF0Phns

The 3rd play was against the Packers and he got hurdled by a linebacker giving up a sack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZNF_dj6tLw

Agreed though, if he got more shots think he could have had a decent little career as a skat back.

(09-14-2017 10:18 AM)NIU8484 Wrote: [ -> ]I remember 3 specific plays for Wolfe. 2 awesome screens where he tore off 20+ yard receptions, 1 against the packers and 1 against the saints.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBQnOF0Phns

The 3rd play was against the Packers and he got hurdled by a linebacker giving up a sack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZNF_dj6tLw

Agreed though, if he got more shots think he could have had a decent little career as a skat back.

Hey! That screen pass video is from my YouTube account. I had to add the music because i recorded it from the news and adamly was yapping over it.

While Cohen had a very good first game, the kid has played ONE NFL game thus far and y'all are already crowning his ass!!!!

(09-14-2017 12:01 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-14-2017 10:18 AM)NIU8484 Wrote: [ -> ]I remember 3 specific plays for Wolfe. 2 awesome screens where he tore off 20+ yard receptions, 1 against the packers and 1 against the saints.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBQnOF0Phns

The 3rd play was against the Packers and he got hurdled by a linebacker giving up a sack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZNF_dj6tLw

Agreed though, if he got more shots think he could have had a decent little career as a skat back.

Hey! That screen pass video is from my YouTube account. I had to add the music because i recorded it from the news and adamly was yapping over it.

Haha too funny

(09-14-2017 12:18 PM)Red Dog Wrote: [ -> ]While Cohen had a very good first game, the kid has played ONE NFL game thus far and y'all are already crowning his ass!!!!

I took a little ride out to Bearbonnais to see the team practice. Cohen stood out. His speed was visible even in practice.

He did take a couple of bad hits in last weeks game so he'll need 2 figure that out otherwise his career will end sooner than later.

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The moment they asked him to gain weight, is career was on the decline.

(09-14-2017 09:13 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-14-2017 08:48 AM)Teamduh Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-13-2017 10:14 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote: [ -> ]Cohen gets thrown around and battered (like wolfe), but can break a tackles with his quickness and power. Wolfe had good speed (not pro breakaway though) but not the same quickness and definitely not the open field power. Wolfe could not break tackles like this kid and didn't have the east west ability. Nowhere near as dynamic. He was easily overpowered.

There was a reason he didn't catch on elsewhere.

Great in college does not always translate into the pros.

I remember one play in particular for Wolfe and the Bears. He caught the ball in the short flat, had a blocker who had a tackle engaged. Wolfe ran right past the defender except he stuck out his arm and stopped Wolfe in his tracks. Yes, a 1-arm tackle in the open field. To me that is the reason why he didn't have more success.

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Yep. I'm not sure what happened to Wolfe when he got to the Bears, but he would go down from the slightest of contact. While I agree the Bears used him incorrectly, he was nothing like the back he was in college.

MAC players vs NFL players.

(09-14-2017 09:17 PM)Big_Man Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-14-2017 09:13 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-14-2017 08:48 AM)Teamduh Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-13-2017 10:14 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote: [ -> ]Cohen gets thrown around and battered (like wolfe), but can break a tackles with his quickness and power. Wolfe had good speed (not pro breakaway though) but not the same quickness and definitely not the open field power. Wolfe could not break tackles like this kid and didn't have the east west ability. Nowhere near as dynamic. He was easily overpowered.

There was a reason he didn't catch on elsewhere.

Great in college does not always translate into the pros.

I remember one play in particular for Wolfe and the Bears. He caught the ball in the short flat, had a blocker who had a tackle engaged. Wolfe ran right past the defender except he stuck out his arm and stopped Wolfe in his tracks. Yes, a 1-arm tackle in the open field. To me that is the reason why he didn't have more success.

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Yep. I'm not sure what happened to Wolfe when he got to the Bears, but he would go down from the slightest of contact. While I agree the Bears used him incorrectly, he was nothing like the back he was in college.

MAC players vs NFL players.

Yeah ... no MAC players in the NFL. Dumb.

Akron
Jatavis Brown Los Angeles Chargers Linebacker
Rodney Coe Seattle Seahawks Defensive Lineman
Justin March-Lillard Miami Dolphins Linebacker

Ball State
Willie Snead New Orleans Saints Wide Receiver

Bowling Green
Jude Adjei-Barimah Tampa Bay Buccaneers Cornerback
Chris Jones San Francisco 49ers Defensive Tackle
Roger Lewis New York Giants Wide Receiver
Kory Lichtensteiger Washington Redskins Center

Buffalo
Khalil Mack Oakland Raiders Defensive End
Steven Means Philadelphia Eagles Defensive End
Branden Oliver Los Angeles Chargers Running Back
Mason Schreck Cincinnati Bengals Tight End
Jacob Schum Green Bay Packers Punter

Central Michigan
Jahleel Addae Los Angeles Chargers Safety
Joe Bacci Tennessee Titans Fullback
Nick Bellore Detroit Lions Linebacker
Antonio Brown Pittsburgh Steelers Wide Receiver
Eric Fisher Kansas City Chiefs Offensive Tackle
Kavon Frazier Dallas Cowboys Safety
Thomas Rawls Seattle Seahawks Running Back
Cooper Rush Dallas Cowboys Quarterback
Joe Staley San Francisco 49ers Offensive Tackle
L.T. Walton Pittsburgh Steelers Defensive End
J.J. Watt Houston Texans Defensive End
Frank Zombo Kansas City Chiefs Linebacker

Eastern Michigan
Cole Gardner Tampa Bay Buccaneers Offensive Tackle
Darius Jackson Cleveland Browns Running Back
T.J. Lang Detroit Lions Guard

Kent State
Julian Edelman New England Patriots Wide Receiver
Antonio Gates Los Angeles Chargers Tight End
James Harrison Pittsburgh Steelers Linebacker
Josh Kline Tennessee Titans Guard
Roosevelt Nix Pittsburgh Steelers Fullback
Brian Winters New York Jets Guard

Miami
Brandon Brooks Philadelphia Eagles Guard
Zac Dysert Dallas Cowboys Quarterback
Ben Roethlisberger Pittsburgh Steelers Quarterback
Quinten Rollins Green Bay Packers Cornerback

Northern Illinois
Kenny Golladay Detroit Lions Wide Receiver
Tommylee Lewis New Orleans Saints Wide Receiver
Rashaan Melvin Indianapolis Colts Cornerback
Jimmie Ward San Francisco 49ers Cornerback

Ohio
Tarell Basham Indianapolis Colts Defensive End
Blair Brown Jacksonville Jaguars Linebacker
TJ Carrie Oakland Raiders Cornerback
Mike Mitchell Pittsburgh Steelers Safety
Ian Wells Detroit Lions Cornerback

Toledo
Barry Church Jacksonville Jaguars Safety
Jayrone Elliott Dallas Cowboys Linebacker
David Fluellen Tennessee Titans Running Back
Treyvon Hester Oakland Raiders Defensive Tackle
Kareem Hunt Kansas City Chiefs Running Back
Zac Kerin Detroit Lions Guard
Brett Kern Tennessee Titans Punter
Greg Mancz Houston Texans Center
Bernard Reedy Tampa Bay Buccaneers Wide Receiver
Michael Roberts Detroit Lions Tight End

Western Michigan
Keion Adams Pittsburgh Steelers Linebacker
Corey Davis Tennessee Titans Wide Receiver
Taylor Moton Carolina Panthers Offensive Tackle
Joe Reitz Indianapolis Colts Guard
Ronald Zamort Arizona Cardinals Cornerback