http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/c...532949001/
Mark Dantonio of Michigan State, Butch Jones of Tennessee and Brian Kelly of Notre Dame - the three men who were head coaches of UC Bearcats football (excluding interim head coaches) from 2004 to 2012 - have the same 30/1 odds, in a bizarre coincidence, of being the first coach fired in college football, according to SportsBettingDime.com.
There are nine coaches with odds suggesting they're more likely than the trio to be the first fired, including UCLA's Jim Mora at 9/1.
Dantonio has been the Spartans' head coach since leaving UC in 2006. In 2016, MSU had its worst season under Dantonio, going 1–8 in the Big Ten and finishing 3–9.
Kelly has been Notre Dame's head coach since leaving UC in 2009. In 2016, the Irish finished 4–8, the team's worst record in a decade.
Jones has been the Volunteers' head coach since leaving UC in 2012. Tennessee was 9-4 in 2016, finishing in second place in the SEC East.
The website is offering more than 50 unique college football props, and also lists Ohio State's odds of winning the National Championship at 15/2, trailing only Alabama at 3/1. The Buckeyes' odds of reaching the College Football Playoff are 3/2, and OSU quarterback JT Barrett's Heisman Trophy odds are 9/1, trailing only USC QB Sam Darnold, Oklahoma QB Baker Mayfield and Louisville QB Lamar Jackson.
I'm going with Jones to get the axe first... They really don't like him down in Tennessee and he doesn't have any real success to fall back on down there. A slow start and he could be gone by week four or five.
Kelly has some success at Notre Dame, but ND finally has paid off Charlie Weis...there was NO way they were going to be paying two coaches simultaneously not to coach. But Kelly has to win some key games and at least go bowling this season.
Dantonio is probably safe this season unless he has had enough and retires.
Hopefully other presidents and ADs start to realize that Cincinnati is a strong program, and it isn't that hard to win here. I've always felt a bit slighted by the idea that winning ~10 games per season and getting ranked here makes you a miracle worker worthy of any job in college football... it doesn't. Winning 10 games per season and getting ranked at Miami or BGSU would take a miracle worker, not so here.
No respect, I tell ya.
That'd be nice if we were all ND, Mich St, or Tenn fans...
...but...
...since we're not...
(08-03-2017 05:34 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote: [ -> ]That'd be nice if we were all ND, Mich St, or Tenn fans...
...but...
...since we're not...
Yeah, well it's still the off-season.
I agree with you and I'm not losing any sleep over it.
True Jerry :) definitely off-season stuff. Just being a smartazz...
Agree with your assessment, and chronology.
The point of this schadenfreude being that, had they stayed, they could have been big winners in the AAC?
A successful coach will always look to move up when the chance is available.
Odds are 1-1 they make a ton more money with a nearly unlimited budget in a world's better conference or in the case of ND, Football U.
Michigan State would be insane to fire Dantonio without giving him at least another full season or two. They have had 6 10-win seasons in the past 50 years... 5 of those 6 have come in the 10 years Dantonio has been there.
My neighbors in Michigan are huge Michigan State fans they are TIRED of all the problems with the players lately. They probably would not mind so much if they were winning.
Michigan State would be crazy to fire Dantonio. They haven't had this much success since the Mid 60's.
I think Dantonio is in real trouble. Their recruiting has fallen off a cliff and their off-field problems are getting out of control.
It's probable all three get canned. Interestingly, I could see MSU and UT hiring BK. Could also see MSU hiring BJ.
As long as they don't hire LF
(08-04-2017 06:28 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ]I think Dantonio is in real trouble. Their recruiting has fallen off a cliff and their off-field problems are getting out of control.
I agree with you, even though MD has had a lot of success. If the program is viewed in a downward position he might get cut loose. No idea how good that team will be this season.
(08-04-2017 09:32 AM)bearcatdp Wrote: [ -> ]As long as they don't hire LF
I don't think there is a chance any job is open for Fickell after year one. After two or three it is possible two of those schools could hire him.
(08-04-2017 10:21 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: [ -> ] (08-04-2017 06:28 AM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ]I think Dantonio is in real trouble. Their recruiting has fallen off a cliff and their off-field problems are getting out of control.
I agree with you, even though MD has had a lot of success. If the program is viewed in a downward position he might get cut loose. No idea how good that team will be this season.
Exactly. I think MSU fans do see a downward trajectory going forward. If he has another year like last year I think he's probably done. One terrible year I can see, but no way they keep a guy with back to back 3-9 type seasons, with the other issues they are facing as well with the poor recruiting and off field problems.
(08-04-2017 12:37 PM)Banter Wrote: [ -> ] (08-04-2017 09:32 AM)bearcatdp Wrote: [ -> ]As long as they don't hire LF
I don't think there is a chance any job is open for Fickell after year one. After two or three it is possible two of those schools could hire him.
Probably not, although Michigan State if it came open would not be a total shock to me. I'd also expect Butch to go after that job too if he survives another year at Tennessee. He actually tried for the Purdue job last year LOL
(08-04-2017 12:45 PM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ] (08-04-2017 12:37 PM)Banter Wrote: [ -> ] (08-04-2017 09:32 AM)bearcatdp Wrote: [ -> ]As long as they don't hire LF
I don't think there is a chance any job is open for Fickell after year one. After two or three it is possible two of those schools could hire him.
Probably not, although Michigan State if it came open would not be a total shock to me. I'd also expect Butch to go after that job too if he survives another year at Tennessee. He actually tried for the Purdue job last year LOL
Interesting since CBJ turned down the Purdue job when he was here (of course he knew he had other suitors).
I would think if MSU and Dantonio parted ways Sparty's first consideration would be Pat Narduzzi. Of course, they might just want to cut ties from the Dantonio regime.
(08-04-2017 12:55 PM)CliftonAve Wrote: [ -> ] (08-04-2017 12:45 PM)Marcus Wrote: [ -> ] (08-04-2017 12:37 PM)Banter Wrote: [ -> ] (08-04-2017 09:32 AM)bearcatdp Wrote: [ -> ]As long as they don't hire LF
I don't think there is a chance any job is open for Fickell after year one. After two or three it is possible two of those schools could hire him.
Probably not, although Michigan State if it came open would not be a total shock to me. I'd also expect Butch to go after that job too if he survives another year at Tennessee. He actually tried for the Purdue job last year LOL
Interesting since CBJ turned down the Purdue job when he was here (of course he knew he had other suitors).
I would think if MSU and Dantonio parted ways Sparty's first consideration would be Pat Narduzzi. Of course, they might just want to cut ties from the Dantonio regime.
I just don't think Butch can handle the limelight. Tennessee might be too big of a stage for him. The media absolutely crushes him with his BS one liners and clichés to every tough question. He could get away with that crap at UC and in the MAC, but not at a traditional SEC power.
Good call on Narduzzi. I think he'd be a name to watch for sure if that job opened up.