Forbes is the realest realist out there. Go Bucs!
What prompted this tweet?
5th-year ETSU signee????? (He graduated last month.)
(And he also has Jason Shay listed on his twitter.)
(06-26-2017 02:18 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote: [ -> ]5th-year ETSU signee????? (He graduated last month.)
(And he also has Jason Shay listed on his twitter.)
He has used up his eligibility, played 1 year with VCU and
3 with UTC.
(06-26-2017 02:37 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-26-2017 02:18 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote: [ -> ]5th-year ETSU signee????? (He graduated last month.)
(And he also has Jason Shay listed on his twitter.)
He has used up his eligibility, played 1 year with VCU and
3 with UTC.
Well, the whole point of being a 5th-year guy, as I understand it, is that you've graduated, and are allowed to play one more as a grad student.
For example Guyn played 4 years at Cincy before he came here.
grad transfers a problem
"best grad transfers available"
"They will be eligible to play immediately, as long as the new school has a graduate program not available at their prior one."
[Note Maurice O'Field on that list going to Nicholls St.]
more....
[ETSU mention at top]
Admittedly, I'm no expert on this, or remotely so.....just assimilating what I've picked up since this new rule went into effect.
(06-26-2017 02:44 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote: [ -> ] (06-26-2017 02:37 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-26-2017 02:18 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote: [ -> ]5th-year ETSU signee????? (He graduated last month.)
(And he also has Jason Shay listed on his twitter.)
He has used up his eligibility, played 1 year with VCU and
3 with UTC.
Well, the whole point of being a 5th-year guy, as I understand it, is that you've graduated, and are allowed to play one more as a grad student.
For example Guyn played 4 years at Cincy before he came here.
The rule does not allow a player to play 5 years instead of 4. It simply allows a player who has graduated
and still has remaining eligibility to transfer to another school without the normal penalty of having to sit out for a year before playing.
Ge'Lawn Guyn played 3 years at Cincinnatti, not 4.
(06-26-2017 03:37 PM)Flippmb Wrote: [ -> ]For example Guyn played 4 years at Cincy before he came here.
Quote:The rule does not allow a player to play 5 years instead of 4. It simply allows a player who has graduated and still has remaining eligibility to transfer to another school without the normal penalty of having to sit out for a year before playing.
Ge'Lawn Guyn played 3 years at Cincinnatti, not 4.
Well, he played 4. Maybe not all that much his senior year (43 min total), so perhaps like red shirts, there's a limit on % of minutes, or something like that. I know the "remaining eligibility" part - just don't know the specifics. Anyway, it was just as theory. Heck, maybe Forbes is hiring him as a grad assistant?
Ge'Lawn's entire college career stats
Maybe he's looking for a graduate coaching position. Lord knows Chattanooga and the place to be right now for passionate basketball.
(06-26-2017 03:56 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote: [ -> ] (06-26-2017 03:37 PM)Flippmb Wrote: [ -> ]For example Guyn played 4 years at Cincy before he came here.
Quote:The rule does not allow a player to play 5 years instead of 4. It simply allows a player who has graduated and still has remaining eligibility to transfer to another school without the normal penalty of having to sit out for a year before playing.
Ge'Lawn Guyn played 3 years at Cincinnatti, not 4.
Well, he played 4. Maybe not all that much his senior year (43 min total), so perhaps like red shirts, there's a limit on % of minutes, or something like that. I know the "remaining eligibility" part - just don't know the specifics. Anyway, it was just as theory. Heck, maybe Forbes is hiring him as a grad assistant?
Ge'Lawn's entire college career stats
Let me rephrase and clarify: Guyn used only 3 years of eligibility. He was injured after 2 games of his senior season, and thus able to seek a medical redshirt.
For NCAA purposes, Guyn "played" only 3 years at Cincy.
(06-26-2017 04:09 PM)Flippmb Wrote: [ -> ] (06-26-2017 03:56 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote: [ -> ] (06-26-2017 03:37 PM)Flippmb Wrote: [ -> ]For example Guyn played 4 years at Cincy before he came here.
Quote:The rule does not allow a player to play 5 years instead of 4. It simply allows a player who has graduated and still has remaining eligibility to transfer to another school without the normal penalty of having to sit out for a year before playing.
Ge'Lawn Guyn played 3 years at Cincinnatti, not 4.
Well, he played 4. Maybe not all that much his senior year (43 min total), so perhaps like red shirts, there's a limit on % of minutes, or something like that. I know the "remaining eligibility" part - just don't know the specifics. Anyway, it was just as theory. Heck, maybe Forbes is hiring him as a grad assistant?
Ge'Lawn's entire college career stats
Let me rephrase and clarify: Guyn used only 3 years of eligibility. He was injured after 2 games of his senior season, and thus able to seek a medical redshirt.
For NCAA purposes, Guyn "played" only 3 years at Cincy.
^This you have 5 years to play 4, sometimes you can get a 6th year due to circumstance (like we are trying with Jurkin)
Buy Touyo used all 4 of his years and played a lot, no way he would get a 5th year.
Guyn had a medical hardship year at Cincy when he required ligament surgery on a finger. That injury was before the team had played 25% of games, so he was eleigible for medical hardship.
Appearance in a single game for a signle second counts as a year of participation, thus no red shirt, but medical hardships can be requested if the injury meets certain level of seriousness and if it occurs early in a season.
Players generally have five years to play four: religious missions (usually LDS) being one notable exception that freezes the clock. If a player completes a bachelor's degree in four years or less and still has sport eligibility remaining, then the PG year is a possibility.
For Guyn, the year he hurt his finger did not count as a year of participation.
Maybe Tuoyo was snubbing McCall by praising Forbes. ETSU has the best coach in conference going on 3 years straight.
Greg Dennis is an example, He played against BYU and Arizona in the preseason NIT but broke his foot in practice. He took a medical red shirt and came back the next year and went back the to NCAA and was on team thst beat Arizona.
(06-27-2017 12:16 PM)shampoo Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe Tuoyo was snubbing McCall by praising Forbes.
This, I think. The Mocs' season ended with
a lot of discontent.
Even if it wasn't intentional, it still looks like jab at McCall , when he praises the coach of his biggest rival. Either way I love it, and yes we have the best coaching staff in the conference.
Respectfully, why now? Why not earlier? There's something more going on, methinks.
(06-27-2017 11:18 AM)Wadood Abides Wrote: [ -> ]Appearance in a single game for a signle second counts as a year of participation, thus no red shirt, but medical hardships can be requested if the injury meets certain level of seriousness and if it occurs early in a season.
Wadood_Abides, I greatly respect your knowledge, but unless they've changed the rule(s), haven't we, in the past, had players declared "redshirts" *after* playing a small portion of a season? I'm almost certain that's correct. I am pretty sure we've even had multiple discussions on the board, and the previous one, about whether this or that player should be declared a redshirt, even after playing some during a season. Maybe all those have been cases where a player was injured, though; I honestly can't remember all those cases. The more I think about it, the more they may all have been injury-related.
[Excuse my thinking out loud here......]
McCall and Forbes have the same agent. I'm guessing Forbes may have helped him out on playing overseas.