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Can BYU and Colorado be too far behind?

Denver, USAFA and now Utah.

http://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/men...tes-friday

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(06-15-2017 09:08 PM)TexanMark Wrote: [ -> ]Can BYU and Colorado be too far behind?

Denver, USAFA and now Utah.

http://www.uslaxmagazine.com/college/men...tes-friday

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Would bet on USC, Stanford, and Oregon before BYU and Colorado.
Any word on conference affiliation? Utah, Denver, Air Force, and Marquette wouldn't be a bad western half of BE lacrosse.
(06-15-2017 09:24 PM)Bogg Wrote: [ -> ]Any word on conference affiliation? Utah, Denver, Air Force, and Marquette wouldn't be a bad western half of BE lacrosse.

Highly doubt Marquette or Denver will leave the Big East now. Denver would maybe consider it if the PAC12 starts the sport.

Air Force might be had. Utah might have to affiliate with the Southern Conference first, and then break off with Air Fonce as more western teams start lax.
(06-15-2017 09:24 PM)Bogg Wrote: [ -> ]Any word on conference affiliation? Utah, Denver, Air Force, and Marquette wouldn't be a bad western half of BE lacrosse.

Kinda what I'm thinking...

I think we'll see a full fledged Mountain/Pacific Lax League by 2022.
(06-15-2017 09:24 PM)Bogg Wrote: [ -> ]Any word on conference affiliation? Utah, Denver, Air Force, and Marquette wouldn't be a bad western half of BE lacrosse.

I have to believe the Big Ten swoops in for the Utes.

Where Air Force goes, who knows. IIRC, it's not like they weren't wanted by other conferences, but something said from their AD folks were supposed to just call them and not the other way around. They could still be Patriot material; Utah-AFA as a western Big Ten expansion has some intrigue. The Big Ten would swing its doors wide open for Boulder, though.

As more western programs emerge, specifically PAC schools, would there be a chance Denver peels off from the Big East for a PAC affiliation?
It would be kind of cool if they could get a regional conference going out there. It would be great if Denver would be willing to anchor it and if Pac 12 schools are involved I think they'd pull the trigger and do it.
(06-15-2017 09:41 PM)NoDak Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-15-2017 09:24 PM)Bogg Wrote: [ -> ]Any word on conference affiliation? Utah, Denver, Air Force, and Marquette wouldn't be a bad western half of BE lacrosse.

Highly doubt Marquette or Denver will leave the Big East now. Denver would maybe consider it if the PAC12 starts the sport.

Air Force might be had. Utah might have to affiliate with the Southern Conference first, and then break off with Air Fonce as more western teams start lax.

I never said they'd leave the Big East, I asked if the Big East might try to go to 8 in lacrosse by adding Utah and Air Force as affiliate members based on the fact that travel/scheduling would likely be much easier for the three mountain schools if they were all in one conference. Plus, Marquette's further West than anyone else otherwise.
(06-15-2017 09:46 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-15-2017 09:24 PM)Bogg Wrote: [ -> ]Any word on conference affiliation? Utah, Denver, Air Force, and Marquette wouldn't be a bad western half of BE lacrosse.

I have to believe the Big Ten swoops in for the Utes.

Where Air Force goes, who knows. IIRC, it's not like they weren't wanted by other conferences, but something said from their AD folks were supposed to just call them and not the other way around. They could still be Patriot material; Utah-AFA as a western Big Ten expansion has some intrigue. The Big Ten would swing its doors wide open for Boulder, though.

As more western programs emerge, specifically PAC schools, would there be a chance Denver peels off from the Big East for a PAC affiliation?

There was talk that the Big Ten would grab Arizona St for hockey. Hasn't happened, but that would have made more economic and media sense than Utah lax.
(06-15-2017 09:50 PM)Bogg Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-15-2017 09:41 PM)NoDak Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-15-2017 09:24 PM)Bogg Wrote: [ -> ]Any word on conference affiliation? Utah, Denver, Air Force, and Marquette wouldn't be a bad western half of BE lacrosse.

Highly doubt Marquette or Denver will leave the Big East now. Denver would maybe consider it if the PAC12 starts the sport.

Air Force might be had. Utah might have to affiliate with the Southern Conference first, and then break off with Air Fonce as more western teams start lax.

I never said they'd leave the Big East, I asked if the Big East might try to go to 8 in lacrosse by adding Utah and Air Force as affiliate members based on the fact that travel/scheduling would likely be much easier for the three mountain schools if they were all in one conference. Plus, Marquette's further West than anyone else otherwise.

I don't think the Big East would go for it, as big publics are not its style. They haven't offered AFA even though it won the autobid in the Southern Conference. Utah has to have design on an eventual western lax league. They already brought in some high recruits, mostly for CA and CO.

There was a statement by the USC AD a couple years ago that they had serious interest in men's lax. Some Big West schools like UCSB have also made lax noise in the past.
(06-15-2017 09:51 PM)NoDak Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-15-2017 09:46 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-15-2017 09:24 PM)Bogg Wrote: [ -> ]Any word on conference affiliation? Utah, Denver, Air Force, and Marquette wouldn't be a bad western half of BE lacrosse.

I have to believe the Big Ten swoops in for the Utes.

Where Air Force goes, who knows. IIRC, it's not like they weren't wanted by other conferences, but something said from their AD folks were supposed to just call them and not the other way around. They could still be Patriot material; Utah-AFA as a western Big Ten expansion has some intrigue. The Big Ten would swing its doors wide open for Boulder, though.

As more western programs emerge, specifically PAC schools, would there be a chance Denver peels off from the Big East for a PAC affiliation?

There was talk that the Big Ten would grab Arizona St for hockey. Hasn't happened, but that would have made more economic and media sense than Utah lax.

Yeah, true. Academically, though, Utah's perceived as a bit more tolerable than ASU.

ASU as a B1G affiliate isn't dead, I feel. I got the impression ASU was just too new with not all of its components put together enough for the B1G to take them at this time. Lacrosse is a little different than ice hockey with recruiting, too... you're more likely to get kids from that part of the country playing the sport rather than a school in a different part of the country with kids coming from the usual recruiting hubs. But, who knows what Utah would actually bring to the table...
Don't know what is the purpose of adding that sport out west. Are they planning to drop a men's sport and use lacrosse as a replacement?
(06-15-2017 11:01 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: [ -> ]Don't know what is the purpose of adding that sport out west. Are they planning to drop a men's sport and use lacrosse as a replacement?

That might be part of it.... Men's Lacrosse actually is TV viewer friendly. If USC, UCLA, Stanford, etc...could get some men's programs going at the D-1level they would find a audience for their Network and even ESPN2/U.

Due to title 9 the women's lax has about twice the programme despite being horrible to watch.
Utah will have some options if they need to add another women's sport, including lacrosse, golf (currently only offered for men), and field hockey (offered by four schools in California that currently play in America East). Utah does not sponsor men's soccer or men's track and field, the latter of which would cut down on their flexibility significantly.

Lacrosse also helps with recruiting students from the northeast.
Colorado seems to be the only state in the West so far that official sanctions Lacrosse as a high school sport. The CIF website does show the sport ... but doesn't seem to do much for it. Also checked Wash, Oregon, Arizona, Utah ... none of them sanction it as an official sport, yet.

I guess if PAC schools don't mind recruiting all the players from thousands of miles away ... sure, they can have the sport. Hopefully this gets a few more MN kids the opportunity to go to places like Stanford.
PAC as a conference is now formally promoting club level women's lacrosse. I think most of the PAC will move up simultaneously in men's and women's lacrosse. We are OK title 9 wise. No men's sports are being dropped to add lacrosse. I get the impression we may be independent at first. The most likely local school to add LAX is probably UVU as they have a lot of title 9 flexibility due to no football. BYU built their athletics departments in the 80s and I think is struggling a bit to maintain its aging Olympic facilities having had to downsize its swimming facilities and some other cuts recently.
jr, are you in Utah? Any push to add lacrosse as an official sport within UHSAA?
Not in Utah, but will be back visiting in a few weeks and will see what's happening. I know that participation in clubs has been growing pretty fast, but not sure where things are at for making it an official HS sport.
(06-16-2017 08:51 AM)MplsBison Wrote: [ -> ]Colorado seems to be the only state in the West so far that official sanctions Lacrosse as a high school sport. The CIF website does show the sport ... but doesn't seem to do much for it. Also checked Wash, Oregon, Arizona, Utah ... none of them sanction it as an official sport, yet.

I guess if PAC schools don't mind recruiting all the players from thousands of miles away ... sure, they can have the sport. Hopefully this gets a few more MN kids the opportunity to go to places like Stanford.

The CIF doesn't sanction playoffs until at least 50% of teams in their sections sponsor it. But the San Diego section of the CIF does, but the LA section does not. California has been producing lax college recruits for years. The LA section champion is determined by a different organizing group than the CIF.

The Washington HS Boys Lacrosse Association sponsors lacrosse championship separate from the normal HS organization.
UHSAA approved lacrosse on May 4, so it is now an official HS sport in Utah.

LAX is both a boys and girls sport in Utah so imagine women's lacrosse will be coming soon as well. The men's team already hired their coach a few years back and has been recruiting like an NCAA team already. I imagine we'll see women's LAX take similar steps.
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