Lol. That says nothing when you lose your job. Thanks Trump.
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(05-28-2017 03:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]This says it all.
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Do you have a link that shows those stats? I'd like to pass that along to a few people if its legit.
(05-28-2017 04:32 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. That says nothing when you lose your job. Thanks Trump.
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Ok, to be fair, I am losing mine after the 2 months. Of course, Obam inhertied a crappy economy from Bush and Trump got a good economy to start.
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Damn, that was a bad job of typing. Of course I hate typing on my phone.
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(05-28-2017 04:36 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2017 04:32 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. That says nothing when you lose your job. Thanks Trump.
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Ok, to be fair, I am losing mine after the 2 months. Of course, Obam inhertied a crappy economy from Bush and Trump got a good economy to start.
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Actually, Bush inherited a recession from Clinton.
(05-28-2017 04:33 PM)q5sys Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2017 03:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]This says it all.
Do you have a link that shows those stats? I'd like to pass that along to a few people if its legit.
I've got to go back and check Bush and CLintons numbers, but Trumps and Obamas are correct from what I recall.
(05-28-2017 04:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2017 04:33 PM)q5sys Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2017 03:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]This says it all.
Do you have a link that shows those stats? I'd like to pass that along to a few people if its legit.
I've got to go back and check Bush and CLintons numbers, but Trumps and Obamas are correct from what I recall.
I think a link would be better than a recollection. Just to avoid that pesky "fake news" phrase that is floating around these boards.
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My company reduced staff ten percent. My wife's has eliminated all overtime.
I am skeptical at this point.
(05-28-2017 05:17 PM)Claw Wrote: [ -> ]My company reduced staff ten percent. My wife's has eliminated all overtime.
I am skeptical at this point.
Skeptical about what? The numbers? The numbers are what they are.
Not everyone will be a winner. If a company focused extremely heavily on consulting for the EPA, that company is about to get whacked for not diversifying prior to now. The point is that many more people are winning now than they were.
And so far the additional job creation is due to Trump's executive orders that are undoing some Obama restrictions, and the promise of tax reform. If he's able to deliver on the tax reform, that will really improve things. But companies will only go so far without some mid to long term certainty in place.
Honestly, about the only thing a president can "do" in his first two months is give people some sense of where he wants to take the country economically and give a positive or negative vibe.......little else in that timeframe.
Trump has given a positive vibe and if congress will ever tackle tax reform the economy could take off. With that said, the economy is still largely treading water.
Does Trump have a magic wand?
Even if he actually did something to help the economy wouldn't it take longer to have an effect?
There is a cause (POLICY) then effect timeline politics
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(05-28-2017 04:41 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2017 04:36 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2017 04:32 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. That says nothing when you lose your job. Thanks Trump.
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Ok, to be fair, I am losing mine after the 2 months. Of course, Obam inhertied a crappy economy from Bush and Trump got a good economy to start.
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Actually, Bush inherited a recession from Clinton.
Technically but not really.
Obama did. He took a troublesome recession and forced it into a full blown one. He kept moaning about how bad things were and how they were getting worse and destroyed what was left of consumer confidence. Bill Clinton finally had to tell him in late February to just shut up. After that, things quit sinking so fast.
(05-28-2017 06:11 PM)Crebman Wrote: [ -> ]Honestly, about the only thing a president can "do" in his first two months is give people some sense of where he wants to take the country economically and give a positive or negative vibe.......little else in that timeframe.
Trump has given a positive vibe and if congress will ever tackle tax reform the economy could take off. With that said, the economy is still largely treading water.
What? The economy is amazing right now!!!
(05-28-2017 04:49 PM)pcm0103 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2017 04:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2017 04:33 PM)q5sys Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2017 03:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]This says it all.
Do you have a link that shows those stats? I'd like to pass that along to a few people if its legit.
I've got to go back and check Bush and CLintons numbers, but Trumps and Obamas are correct from what I recall.
I think a link would be better than a recollection. Just to avoid that pesky "fake news" phrase that is floating around these boards.
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(05-28-2017 05:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]It is correct. It is taking the first two full months under each president.
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES00000...w=net_1mth
Thanks! It wasn't that I didn't believe you, it just doesn't go over well if I tell someone 'this person online remembers this fact'. lol
Also as was stated, with so many 'fake news' claims being made... it's nice when information is verifiable. :)
(05-28-2017 08:10 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]Obama did. He took a troublesome recession and forced it into a full blown one. He kept moaning about how bad things were and how they were getting worse and destroyed what was left of consumer confidence. Bill Clinton finally had to tell him in late February to just shut up. After that, things quit sinking so fast.
Link? Terrible when president blames his predecessor.
(05-28-2017 08:31 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2017 08:10 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]Obama did. He took a troublesome recession and forced it into a full blown one. He kept moaning about how bad things were and how they were getting worse and destroyed what was left of consumer confidence. Bill Clinton finally had to tell him in late February to just shut up. After that, things quit sinking so fast.
Link? Terrible when president blames his predecessor.
So you agree that under Obama, we had 8 years of terrible?