Just curious where you would rank your individual units within the SBC.
Here's mine:
QB - 1-3 (Tied with App/Idaho) - Brandon Silvers enters his senior year as one of the top QB's in the belt.
RB - 1 (Jordan Chunn and Jamarius Henderson (Memphis Transfer/85 on 247) will be nearly impossible to stop.
WR - 1-2 (Tied with Arkansas State) - Troy brings back 100% of its offensive yards, including all receivers, gets a deep threat back from injury, and adds huge playmaker Damion Willis from EMCC.
TE - 8 (Looks like we might use TE's more this year with Clark Quisenberry at TE. We're not a TE friendly offense but who knows.)
OL - 3 (Best O-line in the country statistically last year, but graduate three starters and a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick at tackle. OL Coach is Top 5 in the NCAA.)
DL - 2-4 (Troy returns some great interior D-Lineman, but must replace two ballers on the edge, including SBC DPOY)
LB - 4-5 (Completely gutted but top shelf talent is there to replace them. Will take some time for LB and DL to gel. These rankings should improve as the season goes on.)
DB - 3-4 (Fall camp and interviews indicate an improvement here. We'll have to wait and see).
ST - 3 - With Jabir Frye back, we should again have some of the best if not the best returners in the SBC.
HC - 2 - Neal Brown has shown he has the right stuff to be among the best in the SBC. Scott Satterfield is the best HC in the conference, though Blake Anderson is underrated.
OC - 2 - Neal Brown (Playcaller) should have the leagues best offense this year and certainly has the most P5 credibility. Kenny Edenfield (OC) has some good Troy offenses on his resume.
DC - 1 (Tied with App). Vic Koenning has an incredible P5 resume and has shown he can take anybody from nothing to something in a hurry. APP's Woody is phenomenal.
Disclaimer: I am trying to make a guess with some unproven positions.
I am putting in a range of rankings instead of an absolute ranking.
QB: 3-5 (We've got some really promising young guys, but the QB position is good this year)
RB: 1-2 (Wesley Fields and LA Rambsy are back. With a real offensive scheme they will remind everyone of how good they are. App is the only team that might be better at this position)
OL: 3-5 (Not a lot of depth, but have some talented guys at the top
WR: 4-6 (We have a good group of receivers for an option team)
DL: 5-7 (Lost good tackles and defensive ends last year, haven't done overly great recruiting at that position)
LB: 6-8 (We've thin, and not that great. Probably going to need our top-rated 2017 signee to step in here)
DB: Top 3 (Corners may be the best in the conference, safeties are pretty solid, too)
HC: Not that high.
OC: 3
DC: 7
I don't know enough about everyone else's position groups to really do this, but I tried. Mine should be more viewed as near the top, in the middle, or at the bottom; don't expect me to name which 4 teams are ahead or behind, etc. it's just a general feeling.
QB-6, raw potential to go much higher, but too young and inexperienced for now
RB-3, two really good returnees, a couple of solid backups, and some recruits coming in Fall who may push for PT immediately
WR-3, position gets used differently than in most offenses, but there is some major speed and talent there
TE-6, another position that gets used differently in our O, we'll see how it works out
OL-3, lots of ability here, key will be forgetting everything they learned last year
DL-5, some potential but I'm in wait and see mode
LB-5, very thin in experience, some good young talent
DB-4, still young, but massive amount of talent and speed, should be #1 DB group next year
ST-6, don't really know
HC-11
OC-3
DC-11
Since we have a very young team it's going to be hard until midway through the season to really know how they stand up against other groups, but within our own team looking at the numbers this is the group rankings based on a rough 2-deep and recruit rankings at each grouping. So obviously I'd move RB's way up the list if this wasn't based on numbers.
1 - DB's (No seniors OR Juniors in this group, but there isn't a single starter that wasn't an .81 or above 3-star athlete)
2 - WR (This will come as a surprise to many this opponents this season I think)
3 - DE (No seniors in this group, but they are ALL 3-star athletes)
4 - S (Again, no seniors here. Both of our starters are young but really talented)
5 - QB (I watched the current #1 Shai Werts in the Spring Game and he's got the legs to be really dangerous and throws much better than our two former QB's)
6 - TE (We have a sleeper in this group that could turn into an all-conference type TE if we used that position more in the traditional sense)
7 - LB (We have one returner here that saw significant PT. This will be a work in progress)
8 - OL (After last season who knows, I expect better play because of better coaching)
9 - RB (They are only low on this list because Ramsby was rated a .76 out of HS. I have no concerns with this position as long as our starters stay relatively healthy)
10 - DL (Sapp and Ian Bush are going to be good for us, after that it's going to be all new faces.)
(04-19-2017 10:34 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: [ -> ]Just curious where you would rank your individual units within the SBC.
Here's mine:
QB - 1-3 (Tied with App/Idaho) - Brandon Silvers enters his senior year as one of the top QB's in the belt.
RB - 1 (Jordan Chunn and Jamarius Henderson (Memphis Transfer/85 on 247) will be nearly impossible to stop.
WR - 1-2 (Tied with Arkansas State) - Troy brings back 100% of its offensive yards, including all receivers, gets a deep threat back from injury, and adds huge playmaker Damion Willis from EMCC.
TE - 8 (Looks like we might use TE's more this year with Clark Quisenberry at TE. We're not a TE friendly offense but who knows.)
OL - 3 (Best O-line in the country statistically last year, but graduate three starters and a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick at tackle. OL Coach is Top 5 in the NCAA.)
DL - 2-4 (Troy returns some great interior D-Lineman, but must replace two ballers on the edge, including SBC DPOY)
LB - 4-5 (Completely gutted but top shelf talent is there to replace them. Will take some time for LB and DL to gel. These rankings should improve as the season goes on.)
DB - 3-4 (Fall camp and interviews indicate an improvement here. We'll have to wait and see).
ST - 3 - With Jabir Frye back, we should again have some of the best if not the best returners in the SBC.
HC - 2 - Neal Brown has shown he has the right stuff to be among the best in the SBC. Scott Satterfield is the best HC in the conference, though Blake Anderson is underrated.
OC - 2 - Neal Brown (Playcaller) should have the leagues best offense this year and certainly has the most P5 credibility. Kenny Edenfield (OC) has some good Troy offenses on his resume.
DC - 1 (Tied with App). Vic Koenning has an incredible P5 resume and has shown he can take anybody from nothing to something in a hurry. APP's Woody is phenomenal.
That's what she said !
I'm eagerly awaiting to see Seminole's response. I have no idea where he'd rank our units.
(04-19-2017 01:53 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm eagerly awaiting to see Seminole's response. I have no idea where he'd rank our units.
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, and 1.
Just guessing.
We'll be at or near the top at QB, WR, LB and coaching staff. Upper middle at DL. Middle at RB & OL. Don't know enough yet about TE & ST. Lots of promise this year at DB but based on history I won't get too carried away.
(04-19-2017 02:19 PM)_x_ Wrote: [ -> ] (04-19-2017 01:53 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm eagerly awaiting to see Seminole's response. I have no idea where he'd rank our units.
1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, and 1.
Just guessing.
No way he'd give Blake Anderson a 1.
For USA:
QB - Have no clue who will get the starting job. Our starter was injured almost the entire season last year so it's hard to get a good feel for him. I have my doubts he will be the starter on day 1 this year. We will not have the best and we will not have the worst, that I'm pretty sure of.
RB- Top 4. Xavier Johnson never gets discussed on here because we are not competing for the championship (and had a terrible O-line), but he is a one of the better backs in this conference. We have a RS Freshman this year who was once committed to Auburn before they backed off close to signing day, a strong JUCO back that has the size we lacked last year. Overall, this will be the deepest we have ever been at RB.
WR- As of right now, probably bottom 3rd. We lost almost everyone from last year and I am skeptical after watching the spring game. I expect them to be better once they get some experience. I've seen potential to be really good, but the inconsistency worries me.
TE- Top 3. We are always stacked at TE and this year will be no different. The guys that backed up Gerald Everett (or redshirted) would have been starters at most of the other teams in this conference.
OL- Bottom 3rd until they prove otherwise. We have some new faces this year and from what I've heard they are tougher. But again, I need to see it to believe it.
DL- Top 5. Injuries decimated our DL the last 2 years, losing all 4 starters before the season even started last season. With those guys returning from injury and the guys who got experience last year, I expect us to be much improved on the DL.
LB- Top 4. We have more depth here than we have ever had. The question I have is who plays where and who gets the start.
DB- 1. Our defensive line didn't help our DBs last year, but we return a ton of talent. We have also added some new faces for depth that are very athletic. This is without a doubt our strongest position, IMO.
ST - Who knows. We lost one of the best punters in the conference and our kicker created a lot of high blood pressure last year.
HC- Top half. He hasn't had the same success in terms of wins and losses as many of the other coaches, but he is the only one to ever build a team literally from scratch (he sat on the steps of the Mitchel Center calling to recruit assistant coaches because he didn't even have offices) and have us in 2 bowl games within a decade. We are slowly building D1 depth without having to rely as heavily on JUCOs. We are now starting to spend more money on facilities with our Indoor Practice Facility and will hopefully be hearing news about an on campus stadium within the next decade. He has recruited very well considering the disadvantage we have compared to every other team (outside of maybe GaSt).
OC - Bottom 3rd until he proves otherwise.
DC- Top 3 (yes, I believe that). He completely transformed our defense last year, even without literally half of our starters on that side of the ball. Expect our defense to be a tough unit this season.
(04-19-2017 01:53 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm eagerly awaiting to see Seminole's response. I have no idea where he'd rank our units.
I've never had a response I just took credit for what people that did these ranking for a living said. They were right more often than the posters here but that was to be expected.
As I have posted, because I'm retired and no longer have access to my former employers rankings I'm going to go the 247 Team Talent Rankings for 2017 when they come out.
As far as a position I'll just add up the ratings for the players and see which team has the bests talent by position based on the ratings.
Here is the current 247 Ratings for the players currently on the A-State's 2017 Roster, but as I've said they are missing a lot of ratings. You can go see how your players ratings compared to theirs, and the other SBC teams in 2016.
Name, Position, Rating
Blaise Taylor, DBC, 0.8251
Nehemiah WagnerDBC 0.8220
Brandon Byner DBC 0.7000
Kyle Martin, DBC NA
Jermey Smith DBC 0.7249
A.J. Cayetano DBC NA
Donovan Boyce DBC NA
Brandon Williams DBC 0.9000
Kavin Alexander DBC 0.7793
Niko Johnson DBC 0.7711
Malachi Stout DBC NA
Larry Wooden DBC NA
Chad Gooden DBC NA
Logan Wescott DBC NA
Justin Clifton DBN 0.7883
Ben Sukut DBN 0.8273
BJ Edmonds DBS 0.8321
Jeff Gibson DBS NA
Michael Johnson DBS NA
Darreon Jackson DBS NA
Mark Johnson DBS 0.7544
Caleb Bonner DBS NA
Zac Thomas DBS NA
Jaelyn Jones DBS NA
J. Rolland‐Jones DE NA
R. Bingham DE NA
Caleb Caston DE 0.7533
DaJon Emory DE 0.8000
W. Bradley-King DE 0.7857
TJ Harris DE 0.7793
Griffin Riggs DE 0.8302
Jarrod Chandler DE 0.7733
Dee Liner DL 0.9756
Dovonon Ransom DL 0.7826
Tony Adams DL NA
Josh Curry DL NA
Javier Carbonell DL 0.8000
Clifford Thomas DL NA
Hunter Morton DL NA
Kyle Wilson LB 0.7600
Khari Lain LB 0.8015
T. Ellis Brown LB 0.7810
Tajhea Chambers LB 0.8137
Kirk Louis LB 0.7952
Antwan Turnage LB 0.7633
Ben Gallagher LB NA
Holden Byassee LB NA
Ryan Jernigan LB NA
Lanard Bonner OL NA
Chase Johnson OL NA
Jaypee Philbert OL NA
Dalton Ford OL 0.8081
Troy Elliott OL 0.7850
N-E Seidnaly OL NA
Marvis Brown III OL NA
Jamal Fontenot OL NA
Jacob Still OL 0.7817
Cam Davis OL NA
Jacob Atnib OL 0.7850
Alex Knovak OL NA
Tyrell Reed OL NA
Jhamahl Bell OL 0.7759
Klint Harvey OL 0.8100
Andre Harris JR OL NA
Justin Dutton OL NA
Dwayne Fisher OL NA
Justice Hansen QB 0.8530
Logan Bonner QB 0.7893
Carson Coats QB NA
Aldon Clark QB NA
Warren Wand RB 0.7959
Johnston White RB NA
Armond Weh WehRB 0.8300
Jamal Jones RB 0.8013
Shawn Rainer RB NA
Logan Moragne RB 0.7889
Katon Hill RB NA
D Rollins‐Davis RB 0.7783
Blake Mack TE 0.7959
Jonah Hill TE 0.7433
Avery Johnson TE 0.8000
Javon Isaac TE 0.7716
B. Brockman TE NA
Omar Bayless WR 0.8133
Dijon Paschal WR 0.8315
Chris Murray WR 0.7783
Justin McInnis WR 0.8530
Jaylon Marshall WR 0.7963
Kendrick EdwardsWR 0.8458
Brandon Bowling WR 0.7790
Stephen Upton WR NA
Jared Polston WR NA
J. Adams Jr WR NA
C. Echols-Luper AB 0.8588
Christian Booker AB NA
Chauncey Mason AB 0.8074
Darveon Brown AB 0.8253
Sterling Stowers AB NA
Mitch Hardy DS NA
Luke Sexton DS NA
Sawyer Williams K NA
Damon Foncham P 0.7000
Tyler Flathau P NA
http://247sports.com/Team/Arkansas-State-188/Roster
Again, I know you guys prefer to create your own rankings but because there has been some discussion to use 247 as the "standard candle", I've inserted the 247 rankings shown on the 247 Commit List for the players not yet on the Team Talent (roster) listings, and the average ranking for the position.
Should be close to what will appear when they publish the 2017 Team Talent rankings for the SBC, and you can compare your teams rankings to any teams rankings, by position or whatever.
Name Rating Position
Blaise Taylor 0.8251 DBC
N. Wagner 0.8220 DBC
Brandon Byner 0.7000 DBC
Kyle Martin NA DBC
Jermey Smith 0.7249 DBC
A.J. Cayetano 0.8032 DBC
Donovan Boyce NA DBC
Brandon Williams 0.9000 DBC
Kavin Alexander 0.7793 DBC
Niko Johnson 0.7711 DBC
Malachi Stout NA DBC
Larry Wooden 0.7891 DBC
Chad Gooden 0.7749 DBC
Logan Wescott NA DBC
AVG 0.7890
Justin Clifton 0.7883 DBN
Ben Sukut 0.8273 DBN
AVG 0.8078
BJ Edmonds 0.8321 DBS
Jeff Gibson 0.7900 DBS
Michael Johnson 0.8463 DBS
Darreon Jackson 0.8360 DBS
Mark Johnson 0.7544 DBS
Caleb Bonner 0.7649 DBS
Zac Thomas 0.7709 DBS
Jaelyn Jones NA DBS
AVG 0.7992
J.. Jones 0.7400 DE
R. Bingham 0.7752 DE
Caleb Caston 0.7533 DE
DaJon Emory 0.8000 DE
W. Bradley-King 0.7857 DE
TJ Harris 0.7793 DE
Griffin Riggs 0.8302 DE
Jarrod Chandler 0.7733 DE
AVG 0.7796
Dee Liner 0.9756 DL
Do. Ransom 0.7826 DL
Tony Adams 0.7752 DL
Josh Curry 0.7793 DL
Javier Carbonell 0.8000 DL
Clifford Thomas NA DL
Hunter Morton 0.7608 DL
AVG 0.8123
Kyle Wilson 0.7600 LB
Khari Lain 0.8015 LB
T. Ellis Brown 0.7810 LB
Tajhea Chambers 0.8137 LB
Kirk Louis 0.7952 LB
Antwan Turnage 0.7633 LB
Ben Gallagher NA LB
Holden Byassee NA LB
Ryan Jernigan NA LB
AVG 0.7858
Lanard Bonner 0.8000 OL
Chase Johnson 0.7826 OL
Jaypee Philbert 0.8528 OL
Dalton Ford 0.8081 OL
Troy Elliott 0.7850 OL
N. Seidnaly 0.7826 OL
Marvis Brown 0.7991 OL
Jamal Fontenot NA OL
Jacob Still 0.7817 OL
Cam Davis 0.8281 OL
Jacob Atnib 0.7850 OL
Alex Knovak NA OL
Tyrell Reed 0.8579 OL
Jhamahl Bell 0.7759 OL
Klint Harvey 0.8100 OL
Andre Harris JR 0.7853 OL
Justin Dutton 0.7682 OL
Dwayne Fisher 0.8463 OL
AVG 0.8030
Justice Hansen 0.8530 QB
Logan Bonner 0.7893 QB
Carson Coats NA QB
Aldon Clark 0.7991 QB
AVG 0.8138
Warren Wand 0.7959 RB
Johnston White NA RB
A. Weh Weh 0.8300 RB
Jamal Jones 0.8013 RB
Shawn Rainer NA RB
Logan Moragne 0.7889 RB
Katon Hill NA RB
D. Rollins‐Davis 0.7783 RB
AVG 0.7989
Blake Mack 0.7959 TE
Jonah Hill 0.7433 TE
Avery Johnson 0.8000 TE
Javon Isaac 0.7716 TE
Brandon Brockman NA TE
AVG 0.7777
Omar Bayless 0.8133 WR
Dijon Paschal 0.8315 WR
Chris Murray 0.7783 WR
Justin McInnis 0.8530 WR
Jaylon Marshall 0.7963 WR
Kendrick Edwards0.8458 WR
Brandon Bowling 0.7790 WR
Stephen Upton NA WR
Jared Polston NA WR
Jonathan Adamsr 0.7716 WR
AVG 0.8086
C. Echols-Luper 0.8588 AB
Christian Booker 0.8389 AB
Chauncey Mason 0.8074 AB
Darveon Brown 0.8253 AB
Sterling Stowers NA AB
AVG 0.8326
Mitch Hardy NA DS
Luke Sexton NA DS
Sawyer Williams NA K
Damon Foncham 0.7000 P
Tyler Flathau NA P
AVG 0.7000
Team AVG .7977
(04-19-2017 07:45 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote: [ -> ]Again, I know you guys prefer to create your own rankings but because there has been some discussion to use 247 as the "standard candle", I've inserted the 247 rankings shown on the 247 Commit List for the players not yet on the Team Talent (roster) listings, and the average ranking for the position.
Should be close to what will appear when they publish the 2017 Team Talent rankings for the SBC, and you can compare your teams rankings to any teams rankings, by position or whatever.
Name Rating Position
Blaise Taylor 0.8251 DBC
N. Wagner 0.8220 DBC
Brandon Byner 0.7000 DBC
Kyle Martin NA DBC
Jermey Smith 0.7249 DBC
A.J. Cayetano 0.8032 DBC
Donovan Boyce NA DBC
Brandon Williams 0.9000 DBC
Kavin Alexander 0.7793 DBC
Niko Johnson 0.7711 DBC
Malachi Stout NA DBC
Larry Wooden 0.7891 DBC
Chad Gooden 0.7749 DBC
Logan Wescott NA DBC
AVG 0.7890
Justin Clifton 0.7883 DBN
Ben Sukut 0.8273 DBN
AVG 0.8078
BJ Edmonds 0.8321 DBS
Jeff Gibson 0.7900 DBS
Michael Johnson 0.8463 DBS
Darreon Jackson 0.8360 DBS
Mark Johnson 0.7544 DBS
Caleb Bonner 0.7649 DBS
Zac Thomas 0.7709 DBS
Jaelyn Jones NA DBS
AVG 0.7992
J.. Jones 0.7400 DE
R. Bingham 0.7752 DE
Caleb Caston 0.7533 DE
DaJon Emory 0.8000 DE
W. Bradley-King 0.7857 DE
TJ Harris 0.7793 DE
Griffin Riggs 0.8302 DE
Jarrod Chandler 0.7733 DE
AVG 0.7796
Dee Liner 0.9756 DL
Do. Ransom 0.7826 DL
Tony Adams 0.7752 DL
Josh Curry 0.7793 DL
Javier Carbonell 0.8000 DL
Clifford Thomas NA DL
Hunter Morton 0.7608 DL
AVG 0.8123
Kyle Wilson 0.7600 LB
Khari Lain 0.8015 LB
T. Ellis Brown 0.7810 LB
Tajhea Chambers 0.8137 LB
Kirk Louis 0.7952 LB
Antwan Turnage 0.7633 LB
Ben Gallagher NA LB
Holden Byassee NA LB
Ryan Jernigan NA LB
AVG 0.7858
Lanard Bonner 0.8000 OL
Chase Johnson 0.7826 OL
Jaypee Philbert 0.8528 OL
Dalton Ford 0.8081 OL
Troy Elliott 0.7850 OL
N. Seidnaly 0.7826 OL
Marvis Brown 0.7991 OL
Jamal Fontenot NA OL
Jacob Still 0.7817 OL
Cam Davis 0.8281 OL
Jacob Atnib 0.7850 OL
Alex Knovak NA OL
Tyrell Reed 0.8579 OL
Jhamahl Bell 0.7759 OL
Klint Harvey 0.8100 OL
Andre Harris JR 0.7853 OL
Justin Dutton 0.7682 OL
Dwayne Fisher 0.8463 OL
AVG 0.8030
Justice Hansen 0.8530 QB
Logan Bonner 0.7893 QB
Carson Coats NA QB
Aldon Clark 0.7991 QB
AVG 0.8138
Warren Wand 0.7959 RB
Johnston White NA RB
A. Weh Weh 0.8300 RB
Jamal Jones 0.8013 RB
Shawn Rainer NA RB
Logan Moragne 0.7889 RB
Katon Hill NA RB
D. Rollins‐Davis 0.7783 RB
AVG 0.7989
Blake Mack 0.7959 TE
Jonah Hill 0.7433 TE
Avery Johnson 0.8000 TE
Javon Isaac 0.7716 TE
Brandon Brockman NA TE
AVG 0.7777
Omar Bayless 0.8133 WR
Dijon Paschal 0.8315 WR
Chris Murray 0.7783 WR
Justin McInnis 0.8530 WR
Jaylon Marshall 0.7963 WR
Kendrick Edwards0.8458 WR
Brandon Bowling 0.7790 WR
Stephen Upton NA WR
Jared Polston NA WR
Jonathan Adamsr 0.7716 WR
AVG 0.8086
C. Echols-Luper 0.8588 AB
Christian Booker 0.8389 AB
Chauncey Mason 0.8074 AB
Darveon Brown 0.8253 AB
Sterling Stowers NA AB
AVG 0.8326
Mitch Hardy NA DS
Luke Sexton NA DS
Sawyer Williams NA K
Damon Foncham 0.7000 P
Tyler Flathau NA P
AVG 0.7000
Team AVG .7977
Luper - 72 (After seeing play at college level)
If you want to go by 247 recruiting rankings from 2014 forward GS probably is at the top of the of the conference or right near it.
There's no point in using that, though, because we know how good they are as college players and don't have to guess.
BTW, arguably the best backs in the league (IMO) are Jalin Moore, Wesley Fields, Larry Rose, Xavier Johnson, and Jordan Chunn. Wesley Fields is the only 3-star guy in that bunch, but just barely, and Moore has a rating of 0.700, which might be as low as it can be (not sure).
GaSo was second in the SBC behind A-State on the Team Talent (roster) rankings in 2016.
http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Footbal...erence=SBC
As far as your "we don' have to use" argument, that has been the trend since the dawn of the internet. Everyone thinks there opinion on any thing is as goods as anyone's, and they are wrong.
Most know just enough about their team to be dangerous and squat about any other team.
The reason I've been more right than wrong about A-State's overall success the last few years is I realize that I did not know squat and deferred to those that make a living knowing these things. Pretty much guaranteed I would be more right than the posters here.
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Luper - 72 (After seeing play at college level)
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You can point to examples like this on any roster but you need a "standard candle" and 247 is probably as good as it gets when it comes to these "for public consumption" sites.
Just that posters here asked how I would rate the various positions , and I just wanted to remind everyone I've never ranked anything, just forwarded the rankings and overall season predictions of the company I crunched data for..
Without that data I'm going to use 247, especially the Team Talent rankings aas the basis for my comments.
(04-19-2017 09:11 PM)EigenEagle Wrote: [ -> ]If you want to go by 247 recruiting rankings from 2014 forward GS probably is at the top of the of the conference or right near it.
There's no point in using that, though, because we know how good they are as college players and don't have to guess.
BTW, arguably the best backs in the league (IMO) are Jalin Moore, Wesley Fields, Larry Rose, Xavier Johnson, and Jordan Chunn. Wesley Fields is the only 3-star guy in that bunch, but just barely, and Moore has a rating of 0.700, which might be as low as it can be (not sure).
This must be Larry Rose the IV by now, right? The III has already been in college for seemingly a dozen years.
(04-19-2017 09:19 PM)Seminole Indian Wrote: [ -> ]GaSo was second in the SBC behind A-State on the Team Talent (roster) rankings in 2016.
http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Footbal...erence=SBC
As far as your "we don' have to use" argument, that has been the trend since the dawn of the internet. Everyone thinks there opinion on any thing is as goods as anyone's, and they are wrong.
Most know just enough about their team to be dangerous and squat about any other team.
The reason I've been more right than wrong about A-State's overall success the last few years is I realize that I did not know squat and deferred to those that make a living knowing these things. Pretty much guaranteed I would be more right than the posters here.
GS was on track to blow by ArkSt and the rest of the Sun Belt in the team talent rankings with Willie Fritz's recruiting then we got Tyson Summers who manage to drop 29 spots nationally and from first in the Belt to fifth all in one year. So with last years class being so low I dont know where we will land for 2017. This is a young team with little senior leadership as well so team talent is good on paper but young still. Our first FBS recruits are just now juniors or RS-Sophmores. That would bode well for next two years if we had a competent HC.
You literally do not have to drive more than four to five hours from campus to have access to literally as good as talent anywhere in the country and he cant out recruit Hawaii.....He is trying to claim the 2016 class as his own but most was Fritz and anything he added was off the momentum Fritz created. He is already making excuses about 2018 due to being a smaller size yet Fritz did fine two years in row not signing a full classes. I hope Cook is the real deal but either way it will be settled in two years good or bad.
With my rant being finished with us losing so many seniors most is TBD and is just a guess.
QB-3 TBD based off gut
WR-2 Got the players can we use them?
RB-1 See above
OL-5 TBD / guess, 5 would be a massive improvement from last year
TE-5 really not a big factor for us
DL-4
LB-4 TBD new faces but none will be as good as the last two years. Eligwe leaving was a huge loss for us.
DB-1
HC-11
OC-3 TBD
DC-11
I love the "rants" fans bring to the table. I live in a "macro" world when it comes to college football, and love the details that come from the rants of fans. Lots of good info in those rants.