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NCAA moving 7 championship events out of North Carolina

The NCAA will move seven championship events this academic year from the state of North Carolina, including the first and second rounds of the 2017 NCAA men's basketball tournament, because of the state's controversial HB2 law.

The NCAA's Board of Governors made the announcement late Monday night. The decision comes on the heels of the NBA moving the All-Star Game in February from Charlotte to New Orleans.

The board issued a statement saying, "Current North Carolina state laws make it challenging to guarantee the host communities can help deliver on that commitment if NCAA events remained in the state."

The NCAA said deciding factors in moving the events were that the North Carolina law "invalidated any local law that treats sexual orientation as a protected class or has a purpose to prevent discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender individuals."

The NCAA cited that the HB2 law makes "it unlawful to use a restroom different from the gender on one's birth certificate, regardless of gender identity.''

The NCAA also pointed out that the law provides legal protection for government officials to refuse services to the LGBT community.

The seven events that will be moved:

• Division I women's soccer championship College Cup, slated for Cary, N.C., Dec. 2 and 4.

• Division III men's and women's soccer championship in Greensboro, Dec. 2-3.

• Division I men's basketball tournament first/second rounds in Greensboro, March 17 and 19, 2017

• Division I women's golf championship regional in Greenville, May 8-10.

• Division III men's and women's tennis championship in Cary, May 22-27.

• Division I women's lacrosse championship in Cary, May 26 and 28.

• Division II baseball championship in Cary, May 27-June 3.

The Duke men's basketball team is expected to be a preseason No. 1 and a likely top seed, meaning the Blue Devils probably would have been placed in Greensboro.

Duke already had to switch a non-conference opponent after New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) banned the New York state university at Albany from playing at a North Carolina school due to HB2. New York, Minnesota, Washington, Vermont and Connecticut have banned state-sponsored travel to North Carolina.

"Fairness is about more than the opportunity to participate in college sports, or even compete for championships," said NCAA president Mark Emmert in a statement. "We believe in providing a safe and respectful environment at our events and are committed to providing the best experience possible for college athletes, fans and everyone taking part in our championships."

A number of musical acts also have canceled shows in the state due to the law.

New sites for the championships are expected to be determined soon. Schools in the state of North Carolina can earn the right to host a postseason tournament event, but it would not be a championship event sponsored by the NCAA.

NCAA vice president Dan Gavitt told ESPN that the men's basketball selection committee will have an expedited two-week bid process from interested sites to find a replacement for the first and second rounds of the tournament once slated for Greensboro in March. He said the plan would be to make the selection by mid-October.

Gavitt said the new site will be in the East, joining the other East regional site, Buffalo. Orlando and Indianapolis, the Southeast and Midwest, are the other two Eastern Time Zone sites. The NCAA wants a fourth site. Gavitt said it will be tough to find one on short notice due to NBA and NHL scheduling. That means the venue may have to be an arena on a college campus, or one that has a college team as a primary tenant. South Carolina sites are now a possibility since the state removed the Confederate flag from its state capitol in Columbia.

The future of the Belk Bowl in Charlotte is unclear. Although the NCAA could decertify the bowl this season -- the game cannot be played if it's not certified -- an industry source said he doesn't think the NCAA will do so.

The Belk Bowl matches teams from the SEC and ACC and is scheduled for Dec. 29 at 5:30 p.m. on ESPN from Bank of America Stadium.

"The NCAA is not going to do anything to make the Power 5 leagues mad," the source told ESPN's Brett McMurphy. "It would be interesting, though, to see what would happen if the bowl game was between the Sun Belt and Conference USA, or any Group of 5 conferences."

While the NCAA does not operate the postseason FBS bowl games or the College Football Playoff, it does certify bowls before each season. Since bowls already have been certified for the season, the NCAA could still decertify a bowl, making any student-athlete who participated in the game ineligible.

The ACC also has not taken any action about moving its football conference championship game. It's been in Charlotte since 2010 and is in the midst of a six-year deal to remain in Charlotte through 2019.

ACC commissioner John Swofford said his conference had previous plans to review the situation at this week's ACC Council of Presidents meeting

"So it would be premature to make any decisions or announcements," Swofford said.

In 2015, the NCAA threatened to move out of the state of Indiana, where its headquarters are located, if it didn't alter the state's Religious Freedom Law. Gov. Mike Pence, the current GOP vice presidential nominee, clarified that the law wouldn't discriminate against the LGBT community.
This impacts UNCW, since we now can't get sent to Greensboro IF we win the CAA Tournament, but I felt this would be best for the off topic forum considering the political nature of the decision.

Also, if the NCAA doesn't want to be accused of being hypocritical, they had better add to the list the decertification of the Belk Bowl in Charlotte. Otherwise it'll be quite clear that they don't want to make a stand if it will piss off a power 5 football conference.

Money always talks for the NCAA so I'd be surprised if they touch that. It'll put the power conferences just one small step closer to taking their ball and going home, and leaving the NCAA in the dust.
If Cooper gets elected the law gets repealed anyways. Guess the NCAA couldn't wait that long to decide. This law has now cost the state hundreds of millions of dollars. And what people don't really get is it's not really about the bathrooms! Its more about the other parts of the bill which was very discriminating.
(09-13-2016 10:01 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: [ -> ]If Cooper gets elected the law gets repealed anyways. Guess the NCAA couldn't wait that long to decide. This law has now cost the state hundreds of millions of dollars. And what people don't really get is it's not really about the bathrooms! Its more about the other parts of the bill which was very discriminating.

I'm sick of the political activist from both sides of the aisle overreacting to everything, thus ruining everything they claim to protect. Screw the NCAA, NBA, Jennifer Roberts, McCory, Cooper and anyone else that started and perpetuates this hornets nest of stupidity.

Their stances aren't even genuine. The NBA has played exhibition games in countries where it is illegal to be gay, and the NCAA has gender restrictions on athletes.
(09-13-2016 01:52 PM)bricksnivy Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-13-2016 10:01 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: [ -> ]If Cooper gets elected the law gets repealed anyways. Guess the NCAA couldn't wait that long to decide. This law has now cost the state hundreds of millions of dollars. And what people don't really get is it's not really about the bathrooms! Its more about the other parts of the bill which was very discriminating.


Their stances aren't even genuine. The NBA has played exhibition games in countries where it is illegal to be gay, and the NCAA has gender restrictions on athletes.

Agree, many of the stances i've seen taken are very hypocritical to say the least.
(09-13-2016 10:01 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: [ -> ]If Cooper gets elected the law gets repealed anyways. Guess the NCAA couldn't wait that long to decide. This law has now cost the state hundreds of millions of dollars. And what people don't really get is it's not really about the bathrooms! Its more about the other parts of the bill which was very discriminating.

I dont see the general legislature repealing this no matter who wins the election. The districts are very gerrymandered to protect the GOP majority so those who support the law are at low risk of getting tossed and probably have constituencies that support the law. If Cooper wins, he may be able to pass some form of executive order to soften the blow, but I just don't see the bill getting outright repealed.

Rumor is the ACC may be next. That would have much more of a personal impact due to the connection of the ACC and the state of North Carolina then simply losing the Greensboro regionals and other minor events.
The ACC HQ is in Greensboro and ACC tournament isn't in NC again until 2019.
(09-13-2016 02:55 PM)solohawks Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-13-2016 10:01 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: [ -> ]If Cooper gets elected the law gets repealed anyways. Guess the NCAA couldn't wait that long to decide. This law has now cost the state hundreds of millions of dollars. And what people don't really get is it's not really about the bathrooms! Its more about the other parts of the bill which was very discriminating.

I dont see the general legislature repealing this no matter who wins the election. The districts are very gerrymandered to protect the GOP majority so those who support the law are at low risk of getting tossed and probably have constituencies that support the law. If Cooper wins, he may be able to pass some form of executive order to soften the blow, but I just don't see the bill getting outright repealed.

Rumor is the ACC may be next. That would have much more of a personal impact due to the connection of the ACC and the state of North Carolina then simply losing the Greensboro regionals and other minor events.
Agree about a full repeal, but enough of a change to make people happy
Albany canceled their road game against Duke as the governor banned non essential travel to NC. Hofstra is a private school so it does not effect them but what if Hofstra was public? Hofstra would be forced to forfeit their game against us at Trask
Can't stand either side of this issue and I can't stand the sports world interjecting itself into the political ideology realm in any capacity. Whether it be this or some bum bench riding QB in the NFL trying to stay relevant. I wish they'd all just shutup, play their games, and continue to give us a reprieve from the real world.
(09-13-2016 09:08 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote: [ -> ]Can't stand either side of this issue and I can't stand the sports world interjecting itself into the political ideology realm in any capacity. Whether it be this or some bum bench riding QB in the NFL trying to stay relevant. I wish they'd all just shutup, play their games, and continue to give us a reprieve from the real world.

Massachusetts now deeming churches that do extra activities outside of religous services, such as feeding the homeless or holding a fundraiser for a charity as now subject to their discrimination protection laws.

I have my qualms with HB2, but the aggressive activist movement forced the states hand to draw a line in the sand
(09-13-2016 09:08 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote: [ -> ]Can't stand either side of this issue and I can't stand the sports world interjecting itself into the political ideology realm in any capacity. Whether it be this or some bum bench riding QB in the NFL trying to stay relevant. I wish they'd all just shutup, play their games, and continue to give us a reprieve from the real world.


The world isn't that simple anymore my man. For a long time athletes were silent on social issues, and you had guys like Jordan and Barkley refusing to even try to be role models.

Problem is, we've got real issues in this country. And we're better off as a country when athletes try to be more like Jesse Owens, Jackie Robinson and Ali. Because they have a platform to actually make big changes, unlike you and I (though of course we can make small differences too).
acc has pulled all conference championships from NC - including the football championship game in charlotte.

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(09-14-2016 03:03 PM)Proff Wrote: [ -> ]acc has pulled all conference championships from NC - including the football championship game in charlotte.

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That is definitely more impactful that the NCAA's decision. Sucks for the ACC as they will go back to having a football championship in front of a high school sized crowd.
The law, which Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski called "embarrassing," has also led to non-sports cancellations, including concerts featuring Bruce Springsteen and Pearl Jam. New York and Minnesota are among the states that have mandates against "non-essential" travel to North Carolina. Albany and Vermont have both canceled nonconference sporting in events in the state as well.


Interesting i didn't realize other states as well
The NCAA is backing itself into a corner they will not be able to escape. They have a convoluted set of rules for "transgender" athletes that will be challenged, you can count on it.

The problem they face is that the transgender crowd does not recognize the strict definitions of men and women. How can the NCAA take a stand on a transgender issue, and then expect to ignore the most fundamental problem they have with their definitions?

The NCAA is on a path of killing the goose that laid the golden egg.

Another prediction, there will be a DEMAND that all women's coaches be paid the exact same amount as mens' coaches regardless of the income produced.

Furthermore, athletes had better realize one thing. They are entertainment to their fans. If you piss off too many of your fans by shoving your personal politics in their face, they'll find other entertainment. I can tell you this. I have been a HUGE Panthers fan and am a huge Seahawk fan. But if players on these teams participate in shoving their politics in my face, I will find other teams to support.
I wonder if the CAA will follow the acc and move championships from the state. We could lose the volleyball and baseball tournys.

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There's a huge difference between being a role model and being a mouthpiece for politics.
(09-14-2016 05:21 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote: [ -> ]There's a huge difference between being a role model and being a mouthpiece for politics.

While HB2 is definitely in that camp, I don't view the social justice issues going on in this country as being firmly in the "politics" pile, however. At least not all the time, anyways. There's a lot of hatred spewing around that has a lot more to do with how humans should be treated, and that trumps politics.
This is a huge mess and I find it interesting that every time there is an issue people say, well why aren't the athletes doing anything, and as soon as they do people get up in arms telling them to shut up and play the game. I applaud any athlete that exercises their right to protest peacefully. It creates conversation that wouldn't happen otherwise and brings light to the situation. Let them use their air time to do something, because lets not pretend there isn't institutional problems in America
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