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(10-27-2015 03:58 PM)SylvaniaRocket Wrote: [ -> ]http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...ing-career

Wonderful article, and great spotlight on Toledo's football program!
(10-27-2015 03:58 PM)SylvaniaRocket Wrote: [ -> ]http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...ing-career

I have a belief that Campbell will want to do something like Coach Kehres did at Mount Union.......
wow! Very impressive.
So lucky he is our coach. Go Rockets!
Beckman who. We got the right guy. Good read.
While many people these days think success is getting a promotion and making the most $$$$ possible, perhaps the most impressive and truly "successful" people tend to build something new, have belief in their vision, and see the project through to completion. Seems Campbell's the later. I think we are all hoping for that!
i think he needs to get a bump to approximately $1mill/annual if we expect him to remain our coach long term
and it wouldn't hurt to see the athletic department migrate over to the AAC if that became an option
Quote:The Rockets fought through myriad injuries -- they used their fourth-string quarterback down the stretch, and nearly 30 players had postseason surgeries...

04-jawdrop
What a fickle bunch we are. Anyone who's curious and doesn't remember should take a look back at some of the threads from last fall. A lot of posters on this board thought Campbell was a bad coach.
Care to find those "lot" of posters? I actually don't recall any that said anything other than "young." Did anyone say he didn't have promise? Said he was hurting the program? Most comments by far were along the lines of how long will we be able to keep him.

I don't think there's a problem with fickleness on some so much as selective memory on others.
(10-28-2015 06:03 AM)Dwight Wrote: [ -> ]What a fickle bunch we are. Anyone who's curious and doesn't remember should take a look back at some of the threads from last fall. A lot of posters on this board thought Campbell was a bad coach.

I wasn't one...... I saw the vision
(10-28-2015 06:03 AM)Dwight Wrote: [ -> ]What a fickle bunch we are. Anyone who's curious and doesn't remember should take a look back at some of the threads from last fall. A lot of posters on this board thought Campbell was a bad coach.

We have a great coach in our mists right now. Hopefully, we will be able to watch all of his children grow up in Toledo.
(10-28-2015 06:03 AM)Dwight Wrote: [ -> ]What a fickle bunch we are. Anyone who's curious and doesn't remember should take a look back at some of the threads from last fall. A lot of posters on this board thought Campbell was a bad coach.

Even if I was one of those still on the fence about Campbell last season, it doesn't change what we would have to do to keep him.
I'm only making a comment with regard to how much money it would take to keep him in the fold at Toledo because he is going to get offers from programs with their wallet wide open whether any of us like him or not.
At that point a monetary commitment has to be made.
I don't remember fans saying Campbell was bad, but there were some that I thought were overly critical of the DC.
(10-28-2015 06:24 AM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]Care to find those "lot" of posters? I actually don't recall any that said anything other than "young." Did anyone say he didn't have promise? Said he was hurting the program? Most comments by far were along the lines of how long will we be able to keep him.

I don't think there's a problem with fickleness on some so much as selective memory on others.

You weren't one of them, east, but there were plenty. Now you're going to make me prove how little of a life I have, that I'm willing to look back through old threads just to defend my statement. So, here goes. Below are quotes from two threads on this board from September of 2014:

“I don't see another title while Campbell is head coach. He seems like a nice guy who cares about the program but their are so many reasons why he hasn't been very successful here.” – Rocket Fanatic

“Coaching is not very good. No adjustments, No emotion, No nothing!” – bdunrocket

“Wasn't a fan of Campbell's from Day One. Way too inexperienced for a program at this level. Would be more than happy to eat my words and celebrate multiple MAC championships.” – bcunn3128

“If he's a good recruiter, then why can't the team win just the division? If he's a good recruiter, then why hasn't a single player been drafted since the Amstutz days? Way too many people love seeing the "Toledo tops the MAC in recruiting" every year. Me? I want to see wins on the field. I want to see the team actually compete for a spot in the MAC Championship game.” – Rocket Pirate

“Making those kinds of mistakes is on the coaches. Other teams we play don't seem to have those problems, and it doesn't seem to matter what players we have on the field, those still occur. Just one of the many reasons I think we under-perform compared to our potential.” – northcoastRocket

“Those stupid delay of game penalties and wasted timeouts has been happening ever since we switched to the 'rush to the line, do a fake cadence, look to the sideline' play calling. I hate it. The coaches needed to be better prepared.”

“This coach can't get it done! This team looks exactly like the last two. If mediocre is the standard, he's a perfect fit.
We start flat, dig ourselves a hole, play horrible defense (if you can call it that), and then applaud our effort climbing back into the game. It's shameful.
In light of all of the changes/pressures associated with Division 1 football, we don't have the luxury of letting him grow into the job, only to leave after one successful season.
Cut our losses now!” – magoo

“Campbell is not going anywhere. He recruits well enough to go 7-5 about every year because there are enough pathetic teams in the MAC that UT can win a number of conference games just with their talent regardless of any coaching liabilities. However, the coaching liabilities are significant enough to prevent any 10-2 type seasons that would move him up to the big time so I expect he will be here for a while unless he decides on his own to go back to Division III ball (or whatever they call it these days).” – T-Town

“I agree with the posts that recommend that the coaches are too easy on these kids. MC might be a players coach but that does not always get the job done. We have been in two games that could have made a statement for this team and we did not answer the bell. Coaching staff and players alike need to step it up.” – rocket51

“When he was first hired, I was sort of excited that we got a new, young, and energizing coach. 3 years later and I'm not very excited anymore.” – inductchuck16

Of course, there were more, but I do have a little bit of a life, so I'm not going to browse through every single thread from last fall.
(10-28-2015 08:08 AM)Terry Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2015 06:03 AM)Dwight Wrote: [ -> ]What a fickle bunch we are. Anyone who's curious and doesn't remember should take a look back at some of the threads from last fall. A lot of posters on this board thought Campbell was a bad coach.

I wasn't one...... I saw the vision

I wasn't fully on the MC bandwagon either but his overall record at UT has been impressive so I never called for his job. My biggest problem with him was our lack of quality OOC wins which was put to rest when we defeated Arkansas. Even if we don't finish with a perfect record, I think he has done a good job so far at UT. A great job would include MAC titles and consistently in the top 25. I believe with time, we will accomplish that with Campbell
aw most of those don't count, except maybe magoo and he's near-sighted.

RP was just speculating, not assigning blame. Most of those are "of the moment" type things. Marriages get past those all the time. Mine did. It was the chasing me around the house with a gun that put the kabash on it. Well, one of them. The others were all my fault but that's off topic. Back on topic. Has any poster chased Campbell around the house with a gun?

I would agree with rocket51's because first of all, 51!!!. Second because they did need to step it up and still do. They've not met the potential of the team, there have been WAY too many unforced penalties, delay of games, things the team cannot afford if they want to make a statement that they can not only play the better conference teams but play IN the better conferences, with the grind that brings.

Don't despair. One bad play in a 45-0 blow out win and you'll get plenty of those comments for next year's thread. :)
(10-28-2015 09:47 PM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]Don't despair. One bad play in a 45-0 blow out win and you'll get plenty of those comments for next year's thread. :)

Yes, I think you're right. A couple of losses in November and the second honeymoon might end quickly. Personally, I like Campbell a lot. I agree with owen that our main challenge will be finding a way to keep him here if this season continues to go well. This is my biggest frustration with being a Rocket fan: if we do too well, we lose the coach.
(10-28-2015 06:03 AM)Dwight Wrote: [ -> ]What a fickle bunch we are. Anyone who's curious and doesn't remember should take a look back at some of the threads from last fall. A lot of posters on this board thought Campbell was a bad coach.

I wouldn't read too deep into it, but it is interesting to read back over now! It's simply the psychology of the fan at that moment (losing to NIU is my guess). All of us are depressed at times like these, and we all express it differently. Some feel the need to point out where the flaws are, what we need to do to get better. That is fair game on a forum. I'm sure these guys feel differently now as it is a different year/team. I think we have to remember sometimes that not all teams can go 12-0 (or 7-0 to start). It isn't easy, and it isn't easy to do what MC has done thus far, and at such a young age. He has us at 7-0 and ranked. We should appreciate what we have now! I agree with the other poster, the U should pay him 1 million/year to stay and build something special. He can leave after 10 years, I am cool with that03-lmfao
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