It actually worse than that number. All the growth over the last 10 years has been on the graduate side. The undergraduate enrollment is almost exactly the same at about 10.5K. They had a little bump last year which quickly reversed this year. There are some faculty that left after not meeting their recruitment benchmarks and felt they were in an impossible environment for recruiting.
When Ray Watts leaves the next President needs to bring in a new Provost, from outside of UAB, to come in and clean up the undergraduate side. It is a cesspool and the environment of the last two years has just made it worse.
If a quote contains "strategic planning initiative," you can rest assured Watts was speaking.
And a reduction in enrollment will certainly put you in the hot seat.
(09-16-2015 08:25 PM)Blazing Saddles Wrote: [ -> ]And a reduction in enrollment will certainly put you in the hot seat.
Yup. If you're a president or a board member
Well, I guess that's about 375 students, easily $500,000. Can't afford to have that happen...
(09-16-2015 08:50 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]Well, I guess that's about 375 students, easily $500,000. Can't afford to have that happen...
And probably not a big enough drop to reduce any costs in a meaningful way.
(09-16-2015 08:50 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]Well, I guess that's about 375 students, easily $500,000. Can't afford to have that happen...
Roughly 100 of those are football Players
(09-16-2015 07:24 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote: [ -> ]When Ray Watts leaves the next President needs to bring in a new Provost, from outside of UAB, to come in and clean up the undergraduate side. It is a cesspool and the environment of the last two years has just made it worse.
They actually just brought in a new associate provost who is over enrollment growth, and he is from outside of UAB. He was at Tuscaloosa during their massive growth phase, so it is definitely a priority to grow. There will be a lot more out of state recruiting, for one. I think they really want to start throwing a lot at it finally.
(09-16-2015 09:04 PM)uabz Wrote: [ -> ] (09-16-2015 07:24 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote: [ -> ]When Ray Watts leaves the next President needs to bring in a new Provost, from outside of UAB, to come in and clean up the undergraduate side. It is a cesspool and the environment of the last two years has just made it worse.
They actually just brought in a new associate provost who is over enrollment growth, and he is from outside of UAB. He was at Tuscaloosa during their massive growth phase, so it is definitely a priority to grow. There will be a lot more out of state recruiting, for one. I think they really want to start throwing a lot at it finally.
UAB's national notoriety from the fight to bring back football couldn't hurt. HCBC even mentioned this today at the press conference as something all recruits have knowledge of...
Since our state's universities never bring in any student for whom they don't have an existing class room seat in an existing course, unless classes in brick & mortar classrooms are to be added (and dorm rooms added as well), undergraduate UAB will remain for all practical purposes frozen at its present level. State universities in Alabama don't use "portable classrooms" as are common on K-12 campuses. With the state legislature taking almost $100 million from the SETF - which funds much of undergrad UAB - we might not see real enrollment growth at UAB over the next 5 years at least.
(09-17-2015 02:46 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ]Since our state's universities never bring in any student for whom they don't have an existing class room seat in an existing course, unless classes in brick & mortar classrooms are to be added (and dorm rooms added as well), undergraduate UAB will remain for all practical purposes frozen at its present level. State universities in Alabama don't use "portable classrooms" as are common on K-12 campuses. With the state legislature taking almost $100 million from the SETF - which funds much of undergrad UAB - we might not see real enrollment growth at UAB over the next 5 years at least.
Not quite correct.
1. UAB has at least a couple of classroom building projects on the plans for the next 5 years. One is the new School of Business building, and the second is a "Heritage Hall II" which would be a mirror image of Heritage Hall for the College of Arts and Sciences.
2. There is a HUGE push for online-only students, and that population is growing. I believe it grew nearly 2%. This at the same time that overall student population shrank. That means that UAB's student population attending classes on campus actually shrank more than the 300-odd students previously quoted. As time moves forward that focus will just increase further. Online students can be added for almost no cost, since the course materials have already been created and they don't require a parking space or seat in a classroom.
I heard the gave out a lot of scholarships this year to mast the enrollment decline
Not sure how they would know up front that enrollment would decline.
My daughter, while awarded a scholarship at UAB, was not awarded a scholarship that was better than JSU's offer.
(09-17-2015 08:36 AM)the_blazerman Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure how they would know up front that enrollment would decline.
They wouldn't. They don't know the real numbers until after the first tuition payment date. That's the last date you can drop a class without having to pay for it, and that is a week or two after classes start.
The trend is not your friend. Enrollment is declining across the board for colleges, so it's not surprising UAB's enrollment is down.
"The main story is enrollment has gone down for four straight years. It peaked in 2011, and since spring 2011 colleges have lost over 1 million enrollments," said Jason DeWitt, manager of research services at the center and the author of the report, told CBS MoneyWatch. "During periods of recession it's common for displaced workers to go back to college to seek new skills."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-is-colle...declining/
(09-17-2015 08:47 AM)JxGx78 Wrote: [ -> ]The trend is not your friend. Enrollment is declining across the board for colleges, so it's not surprising UAB's enrollment is down.
"The main story is enrollment has gone down for four straight years. It peaked in 2011, and since spring 2011 colleges have lost over 1 million enrollments," said Jason DeWitt, manager of research services at the center and the author of the report, told CBS MoneyWatch. "During periods of recession it's common for displaced workers to go back to college to seek new skills."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-is-colle...declining/
Many young folks who cannot find jobs during economic downturns often (re)turn to college. When the economy turns around most probably return to the workforce.