To stay in C-USA UAB needs football.
So they somehow subtly stop football coming back what happens to UAB and C-USA. I'm sure C-USA's patient has run thin and we have a new Commissioner.
Are some willing to take a crappy retread coach just to stay in C-USA
or
Be prepared to leave
If my memory was correct, I don't remember no one officially inviting UAB to join their basketball only league.
If UAB fails to follow through on the promises made to CUSA, its member institutions and the NCAA regarding football - and the Watts regime shows every sign of reneging on these agreements - then UAB will be expelled from CUSA.
Further, no other conference will accept the word of Ray Watts and Mark Ingram regarding anything. UAB will not join the Missouri Valley or Atlantic 10, and likely will be turned away by the Sun Belt and Atlantic Sun.
Still further, no research consortium or peer institution will accept the word of Ray Watts regarding anything. Research grants and cooperative projects will suffer even further irreparable harm.
Ray Watts and the Trustees are on the verge of destroying UAB's institutional credibility. This goes far beyond football, and far beyond athletics.
I still have seen no signs that UAB is not bring back football, so there is no reason to worry about basketball, thank you. I have seen signs that UAB will not be bringing back Bill Clark.
Somehow some UAB fans think that they are one and the same.
(09-13-2015 01:55 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]I still have seen no signs that UAB is not bring back football, so there is no reason to worry about basketball, thank you. I have seen signs that UAB will not be bringing back Bill Clark.
Somehow some UAB fans think that they are one and the same.
I agree they don't want Clark coaching at UAB. But, this is the same type of sabotage they have been doing for years. You shouldn't fool yourself into thinking basketball is completely safe, however.
(09-13-2015 02:02 PM)nicknitro19 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2015 01:55 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]I still have seen no signs that UAB is not bring back football, so there is no reason to worry about basketball, thank you. I have seen signs that UAB will not be bringing back Bill Clark.
Somehow some UAB fans think that they are one and the same.
I agree they don't want Clark coaching at UAB. But, this is the same type of sabotage they have been doing for years. You shouldn't fool yourself into thinking basketball is completely safe, however.
Basketball is safe. Basketball has never been an issue with the BOT outside of the fact they didn't take to kindly to Bartow's letter. The BOT wouldn't have allowed for Haase to make $1 mil if it basketball was in danger.
I wish some of you would stop trying to equate that football and basketball is in it together. The only way basketball goes away is if UAB is disbanded as a university.
we FIGHT EVERY battle and we will win , clark will get his contract , uab will play football in 2017 and we will get an ocs
it is just hurdle ,,,and we will be flying over them
the bot is under pressure and it never happen to them and they use desperate knee jerk reaction
I hope the student will vote on fire ray watt and free uab
The only reason Watts said football was coming back was because he was reaching a deadline with CUSA & didn't want the masses coming down on him.
If football was killed again, the resulting consequences would be massive. We've already spent any emotional capital we had at conference headquarters plus and the decision makers there have changed. There wouldn't be any probationary periods. We'd be out and independent. That's when the real bleeding starts. Coaches leave in the midst of the transition for greener pastures, recruiting starts to trend towards rock bottom, transfers on top of transfers, the pending scheduling disasters, etc. Our credibility as an institution would pretty much be worthless, too.
A conference like the Atlantic Sun would probably reach out eventually, but, by the time anything would be accepted, UAB would be such a shell of its former self that it wouldn't even be recognizable. In a future like that, people around here would be kind of interested in our game against Jacksonville until they realized it wasn't Jacksonville State and then go back to lumping us in with North Florida, FGCU, SC-Upstate, and the rest of our new peers.
(09-13-2015 02:54 PM)Hopeful Wrote: [ -> ]If football was killed again, the resulting consequences would be massive. We've already spent any emotional capital we had at conference headquarters plus and the decision makers there have changed. There wouldn't be any probationary periods. We'd be out and independent. That's when the real bleeding starts. Coaches leave in the midst of the transition for greener pastures, recruiting starts to trend towards rock bottom, transfers on top of transfers, the pending scheduling disasters, etc. Our credibility as an institution would pretty much be worthless, too.
A conference like the Atlantic Sun would probably reach out eventually, but, by the time anything would be accepted, UAB would be such a shell of its former self that it wouldn't even be recognizable. In a future like that, people around here would be kind of interested in our game against Jacksonville until they realized it wasn't Jacksonville State and then go back to lumping us in with North Florida, FGCU, SC-Upstate, and the rest of our new peers.
None of that is happening. This thread is just an attempt at fearmongering because Clark may not be retained.
(09-13-2015 02:42 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2015 02:02 PM)nicknitro19 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2015 01:55 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]I still have seen no signs that UAB is not bring back football, so there is no reason to worry about basketball, thank you. I have seen signs that UAB will not be bringing back Bill Clark.
Somehow some UAB fans think that they are one and the same.
I agree they don't want Clark coaching at UAB. But, this is the same type of sabotage they have been doing for years. You shouldn't fool yourself into thinking basketball is completely safe, however.
Basketball is safe. Basketball has never been an issue with the BOT outside of the fact they didn't take to kindly to Bartow's letter. The BOT wouldn't have allowed for Haase to make $1 mil if it basketball was in danger.
I wish some of you would stop trying to equate that football and basketball is in it together. The only way basketball goes away is if UAB is disbanded as a university.
You are kidding yourself then. The only reason Haase got the contract was the BOT was trying to desperately make it seem like they supported UAB Athletics.
Whatever happened to Mike Anderson?
(09-13-2015 03:03 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2015 02:54 PM)Hopeful Wrote: [ -> ]If football was killed again, the resulting consequences would be massive. We've already spent any emotional capital we had at conference headquarters plus and the decision makers there have changed. There wouldn't be any probationary periods. We'd be out and independent. That's when the real bleeding starts. Coaches leave in the midst of the transition for greener pastures, recruiting starts to trend towards rock bottom, transfers on top of transfers, the pending scheduling disasters, etc. Our credibility as an institution would pretty much be worthless, too.
A conference like the Atlantic Sun would probably reach out eventually, but, by the time anything would be accepted, UAB would be such a shell of its former self that it wouldn't even be recognizable. In a future like that, people around here would be kind of interested in our game against Jacksonville until they realized it wasn't Jacksonville State and then go back to lumping us in with North Florida, FGCU, SC-Upstate, and the rest of our new peers.
None of that is happening. This thread is just an attempt at fearmongering because Clark may not be retained.
Yeah. Closing football wasn't happening, either.
If they succeed in driving Clark off, the whole house of cards is going to crumble. The boosters and donors will cut their losses and get out. Football will go down the tubes, so will C-USA membership and UAB's credibility.
(09-13-2015 04:24 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2015 03:03 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2015 02:54 PM)Hopeful Wrote: [ -> ]If football was killed again, the resulting consequences would be massive. We've already spent any emotional capital we had at conference headquarters plus and the decision makers there have changed. There wouldn't be any probationary periods. We'd be out and independent. That's when the real bleeding starts. Coaches leave in the midst of the transition for greener pastures, recruiting starts to trend towards rock bottom, transfers on top of transfers, the pending scheduling disasters, etc. Our credibility as an institution would pretty much be worthless, too.
A conference like the Atlantic Sun would probably reach out eventually, but, by the time anything would be accepted, UAB would be such a shell of its former self that it wouldn't even be recognizable. In a future like that, people around here would be kind of interested in our game against Jacksonville until they realized it wasn't Jacksonville State and then go back to lumping us in with North Florida, FGCU, SC-Upstate, and the rest of our new peers.
None of that is happening. This thread is just an attempt at fearmongering because Clark may not be retained.
Yeah. Closing football wasn't happening, either.
If they succeed in driving Clark off, the whole house of cards is going to crumble. The boosters and donors will cut their losses and get out. Football will go down the tubes, so will C-USA membership and UAB's credibility.
And the rest of UAB athletics including MB favorites Haase & BBall to follow shortly therafter. So MB again tell us how this ends favorably for any sport at UAB & we're just fearmongering??
If UAB fans can't support UAB football without Bill Clark, then maybe Watts and the BOT is right and there is no real support. Some of you are going to have to decide pretty quick if you want football or do you want Bill Clark, because it is becoming clear you won't get both. Its not right or fair, but for now, that appears to me to be the situation.
We want him because he's a good coach & has been good to us so deserves to be fought for. We want the coach we want not what they want us to have which if you remember were failures leading to less support not more support. What do you think would happen if we were in charge of UAT & we're trying to run off Saban? Do you think their fan base would be acting any different than us? But you know all this already & are being nothing more than the troll you really are.
(09-13-2015 04:50 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]If UAB fans can't support UAB football without Bill Clark, then maybe Watts and the BOT is right and there is no real support. Some of you are going to have to decide pretty quick if you want football or do you want Bill Clark, because it is becoming clear you won't get both. Its not right or fair, but for now, that appears to me to be the situation.
That's ridiculous. We can support football, but we
DO NOT HAVE TO SUPPORT THE SABOTAGE AND CORRUPTION OF THE BOT.
clark will stay and will be COACHING UAB in 2017
first game is september 2017
A lot of thing will happen before september 2017
The bot always ignore us ,because we were non existent for them, now they try to provoke us .it mean they recognize our existence concern
IT is big step
I laugh at those fans panicking when something go wrong with the BOT
(09-13-2015 05:07 PM)blazerwkr Wrote: [ -> ]We want him because he's a good coach & has been good to us so deserves to be fought for. We want the coach we want not what they want us to have which if you remember were failures leading to less support not more support. What do you think would happen if we were in charge of UAT & we're trying to run off Saban? Do you think their fan base would be acting any different than us? But you know all this already & are being nothing more than the troll you really are.
Love how everyone resorts to name calling. I agree we should fight for Clark, but it doesn't appear the fans have much they can do. Any threats followed thru on will result in the loss of football. But if calling me a troll because you don't like my post somehow invalidates it, go ahead.
(09-13-2015 05:07 PM)blazerwkr Wrote: [ -> ]We want him because he's a good coach & has been good to us so deserves to be fought for. We want the coach we want not what they want us to have which if you remember were failures leading to less support not more support. What do you think would happen if we were in charge of UAT & we're trying to run off Saban? Do you think their fan base would be acting any different than us? But you know all this already & are being nothing more than the troll you really are.
Don't waste your time on him. He cares nothing for Gene or his legacy. Put him on ignore and let him be dead to you as he is to me.
We have other uses for our time and energy. We fight.
Why we want to keep Clark is obvious to anyone who understands football. He took Garrick McGee's roster, plugged in a few jucos and won more games than we have in 11 years. He is clearly a talented coach who had the program on the rise. He's won everywhere he's been. He showed a level of loyalty unheard of in his profession to an administration that, frankly, doesn't deserve it.
We have our football Gene Bartow. Finally.
If he's run off, who will replace him? Ellis Johnson is as good a guess as any.
Running off Clark would be hamstringing the program, which is what they've consistently done in the past, and would be completely in character for this gang of idiots.
Running Clark off will continue to do what they've been doing all along. If we suck hard enough, long enough, support will dwindle until it's December 2 again.
Their fuckup was not cancelling football after '13. Instead they waited until the program was showing a pulse for the first time in years.
Because of Clark.
(09-13-2015 07:56 PM)Smaug Wrote: [ -> ]Why we want to keep Clark is obvious to anyone who understands football. He took Garrick McGee's roster, plugged in a few jucos and won more games than we have in 11 years. He is clearly a talented coach who had the program on the rise. He's won everywhere he's been. He showed a level of loyalty unheard of in his profession to an administration that, frankly, doesn't deserve it.
We have our football Gene Bartow. Finally.
If he's run off, who will replace him? Ellis Johnson is as good a guess as any.
Running off Clark would be hamstringing the program, which is what they've consistently done in the past, and would be completely in character for this gang of idiots.
Running Clark off will continue to do what they've been doing all along. If we suck hard enough, long enough, support will dwindle until it's December 2 again.
Their fuckup was not cancelling football after '13. Instead they waited until the program was showing a pulse for the first time in years.
Because of Clark.
I agree with everything you say, but is Clark a make or break issue? Are UAB fans willing to lose football again over the coach? That seems to be the crossroads we are coming to.