08-01-2015, 01:42 PM
(08-01-2015 12:38 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]I'm shocked that pirateoracle would have such a stupid, butt hurt post... No, not really.
Your flag speaks volumes redneck...
(08-01-2015 12:38 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]I'm shocked that pirateoracle would have such a stupid, butt hurt post... No, not really.
(08-01-2015 03:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ](08-01-2015 01:42 PM)Pirateoracle Wrote: [ -> ](08-01-2015 12:38 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]I'm shocked that pirateoracle would have such a stupid, butt hurt post... No, not really.
Your flag speaks volumes redneck...
Lol
(08-01-2015 01:42 PM)Pirateoracle Wrote: [ -> ](08-01-2015 12:38 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]I'm shocked that pirateoracle would have such a stupid, butt hurt post... No, not really.
Your flag speaks volumes redneck...
(08-01-2015 03:44 PM)ShoreBuc Wrote: [ -> ](08-01-2015 03:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ](08-01-2015 01:42 PM)Pirateoracle Wrote: [ -> ](08-01-2015 12:38 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]I'm shocked that pirateoracle would have such a stupid, butt hurt post... No, not really.
Your flag speaks volumes redneck...
Lol
58th Are you from the Western part of NC ? 58th was one of the few NC Infantry Brigades raised that fought in the Western Theater
Here is a less offensive flag for you
(08-03-2015 09:20 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]All in, there's 4 of my 3rd great grandfathers who fought for the South. ....... It's dad's first name and my middle name. There are several other uncles in there too. My history in the USA and south specifically is pretty deep.
(08-03-2015 09:34 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote: [ -> ](08-03-2015 09:20 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]All in, there's 4 of my 3rd great grandfathers who fought for the South. ....... It's dad's first name and my middle name. There are several other uncles in there too. My history in the USA and south specifically is pretty deep.
I also had 4 Rebel great-grandfathers (all Mississippians) who fought for the South. Two of them were killed - only 1 of the 4 ever owned a slave. The current cultural cleansing of the South is comparable to Nazi book-burning and I feel sorry for those who cannot see it.
(08-03-2015 09:45 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: [ -> ](08-03-2015 09:34 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote: [ -> ](08-03-2015 09:20 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]All in, there's 4 of my 3rd great grandfathers who fought for the South. ....... It's dad's first name and my middle name. There are several other uncles in there too. My history in the USA and south specifically is pretty deep.
I also had 4 Rebel great-grandfathers (all Mississippians) who fought for the South. Two of them were killed - only 1 of the 4 ever owned a slave. The current cultural cleansing of the South is comparable to Nazi book-burning and I feel sorry for those who cannot see it.
The problem is that what the public see when they see the Rebel flag is racist rednecks and KKK.
My first impression of that flag was as a 12 year old kid moving to a then rural section of Miami and stepping of my school bus to a pack of people waving that flag and calling me and others spics and nigs
So in large part it's those that allowed those people to use those symbols and not speak out against them that has created the backlash on it.
(08-03-2015 09:51 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ](08-03-2015 09:45 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: [ -> ](08-03-2015 09:34 AM)Gray Avenger Wrote: [ -> ](08-03-2015 09:20 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]All in, there's 4 of my 3rd great grandfathers who fought for the South. ....... It's dad's first name and my middle name. There are several other uncles in there too. My history in the USA and south specifically is pretty deep.
I also had 4 Rebel great-grandfathers (all Mississippians) who fought for the South. Two of them were killed - only 1 of the 4 ever owned a slave. The current cultural cleansing of the South is comparable to Nazi book-burning and I feel sorry for those who cannot see it.
The problem is that what the public see when they see the Rebel flag is racist rednecks and KKK.
My first impression of that flag was as a 12 year old kid moving to a then rural section of Miami and stepping of my school bus to a pack of people waving that flag and calling me and others spics and nigs
So in large part it's those that allowed those people to use those symbols and not speak out against them that has created the backlash on it.
The SCV has spoken out on those idiots plenty of times recently and the past. Funny how nobody says **** about this.
Southerners (and our flags in particular) have become nothing but convinient scapegoats for racism in American. Same song, different verse.
(08-03-2015 09:20 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ](08-01-2015 03:44 PM)ShoreBuc Wrote: [ -> ](08-01-2015 03:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ](08-01-2015 01:42 PM)Pirateoracle Wrote: [ -> ](08-01-2015 12:38 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]I'm shocked that pirateoracle would have such a stupid, butt hurt post... No, not really.
Your flag speaks volumes redneck...
Lol
58th Are you from the Western part of NC ? 58th was one of the few NC Infantry Brigades raised that fought in the Western Theater
Here is a less offensive flag for you
I'm not personally from there but my father's maternal 2nd grandfather served in the 58th. Last name was Hollifield (Scottish) and he was mustered in McDowell County. There's still a lot of Hollifield's out that was as far as I can tell.
Regarding my Sig, my Mother's 2nd grandfather, a Zeigler who fought for the SC 17th, Barnwell Co. Actually there was a whole clan of Zeigler's who fought from that area. I assume there were a lot of angry Germans in SC.
My direct line (surname) was Wake / Johnston County militia in the Civil War and the American Revolution. All in, there's 4 of my 3rd great grandfathers who fought for the South. The first name of one of them (from the NC 31st) has been passed down a few times. It's dad's first name and my middle name. There are several other uncles in there too. My history in the USA and south specifically is pretty deep.
(08-03-2015 10:22 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever man. You're entitled to make sweeping generalizations if you want.
(08-03-2015 10:25 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: [ -> ](08-03-2015 10:22 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever man. You're entitled to make sweeping generalizations if you want.
Not generalizations my friend but plenty of personal experiences. If you don't want to admit that that flag has been used and continues to be used by racists that's your call.
(08-03-2015 10:34 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ](08-03-2015 10:25 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: [ -> ](08-03-2015 10:22 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever man. You're entitled to make sweeping generalizations if you want.
Not generalizations my friend but plenty of personal experiences. If you don't want to admit that that flag has been used and continues to be used by racists that's your call.
"That" flag was hijacked by morons. Again, we've been a scapegoat. Funny how few gaf about my Cherokee ancestors getting driven out under another flag. Point being, history is written by the victors.
(08-03-2015 10:34 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ](08-03-2015 10:25 AM)Cubanbull Wrote: [ -> ](08-03-2015 10:22 AM)blunderbuss Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever man. You're entitled to make sweeping generalizations if you want.
Not generalizations my friend but plenty of personal experiences. If you don't want to admit that that flag has been used and continues to be used by racists that's your call.
"That" flag was hijacked by morons. Again, we've been a scapegoat. Funny how few gaf about my Cherokee ancestors getting driven out under another flag. Point being, history is written by the victors.