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About Tuesday's Faculty Senate meeting:

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There's always that one person...Now, I'm not for killing this person because he/she makes some fair points, and I respect the opinion. That's why I'm not including the name here. Not everyone has to love college athletics. That said, if UAB was to end football for the health of the players then say so from the beginning. This 11th hour stuff doesn't fly with me.

The ink isn't even dry on the Carr report, the financial and enrollment damage isn't going to happen in 3 months. What a moron.

(05-14-2015 04:33 PM)Agent Orange Sauce Wrote: [ -> ]That said, if UAB was to end football for the health of the players then say so from the beginning. This 11th hour stuff doesn't fly with me.

It's a real concern, but, ironically, there is research at the school about making helmets safer, right?

Overall those sentiments are to be expected, but the ramifications of the decision remain to be seen in a larger context. I'm not an administrator and I'm not privy to the data they have collected, but anyone can tell you that it doesn't exactly do us any good to go without the sport for no practical reason.

What a Watzi. I'd be shocked if this senator voted no confidence. I'd also be shocked if this senator was a dude.

Supply a name of this Senator so she can get feedback. She obviously doesn't mind the other Faculty Senators having her name and every communication within the university is public record.

Opinions are like ______________ ?

Everybody's got one and I don't ever want to see that one's again.

(05-14-2015 06:57 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote: [ -> ]Opinions are like ______________ ?

Everybody's got one and I don't ever want to see that one's again.

Up for tenure, obviously.

I see her saying that the CSS Report is expected to be leaked.

"There is a 1% drop from the same time last year. That is within the margin of error;..the dire predictions made by advocates of keeping the football program have fallen up short. Students have not left the University in droves"
We just ended the Spring semester, which is the traditional graduation semester. While traditional graduation timelines are becoming less common for colleges and universities, we should be seeing recently graduated high school students coming to UAB and increasing our enrollment. That we're flat-lining right now is very concerning to me. I know my sources in recruitment have expressed concerns.

I'm curious as to whether the number of individual donors have changed. I was just about to give my annual donation to the School of Engineering when the rumors started and I held back. If this time next year Football is good and dead and Watts is entrenched, I wonder if the big name donors and small timers will still be giving. I also wonder how many people who traditionally give to the "sister campus" gave to UAB this year on a one-time basis.

I'm sure Johnny Johns always gives UAB millions at Christmas because the trustees love us all equally.

JJ has the entire Campaign for UAB at his beck & call & I'm sure he's getting a % of the money that's in it as head of it.

(05-14-2015 09:25 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote: [ -> ]"There is a 1% drop from the same time last year. That is within the margin of error;..the dire predictions made by advocates of keeping the football program have fallen up short. Students have not left the University in droves"
We just ended the Spring semester, which is the traditional graduation semester. While traditional graduation timelines are becoming less common for colleges and universities, we should be seeing recently graduated high school students coming to UAB and increasing our enrollment. That we're flat-lining right now is very concerning to me. I know my sources in recruitment have expressed concerns.

I'm curious as to whether the number of individual donors have changed. I was just about to give my annual donation to the School of Engineering when the rumors started and I held back. If this time next year Football is good and dead and Watts is entrenched, I wonder if the big name donors and small timers will still be giving. I also wonder how many people who traditionally give to the "sister campus" gave to UAB this year on a one-time basis.

According to a member of the Athletics Task Force who I trust implicitly, athletic donations have be shut down. He/she also told me donations to the Campaign for UAB have also been shut down. In addition 2 eight figure donations to the Campaign for UAB which the university administration considered "in the bank" were recently revoked.

Somebody's lying to somebody. Guess who?

I renewed my Blazer Boosters membership in March to get on a payment plan to secure my seats in Bartow... don't hold it against me.

(05-14-2015 09:25 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote: [ -> ]"There is a 1% drop from the same time last year. That is within the margin of error;..the dire predictions made by advocates of keeping the football program have fallen up short. Students have not left the University in droves"
We just ended the Spring semester, which is the traditional graduation semester. While traditional graduation timelines are becoming less common for colleges and universities, we should be seeing recently graduated high school students coming to UAB and increasing our enrollment. That we're flat-lining right now is very concerning to me. I know my sources in recruitment have expressed concerns.

I'm curious as to whether the number of individual donors have changed. I was just about to give my annual donation to the School of Engineering when the rumors started and I held back. If this time next year Football is good and dead and Watts is entrenched, I wonder if the big name donors and small timers will still be giving. I also wonder how many people who traditionally give to the "sister campus" gave to UAB this year on a one-time basis.

Trying to gauge the effects on both enrollment and donors this soon after the decision was made is silly.

Students can't up and leave immediately. The decline in enrollment will be via fewer students coming to UAB to begin their career, not by students leaving before they graduate.

And the donor numbers are skewed because UAB is in the middle of a capital campaign. Of course donations are up because there's a concerted effort. They're up in December over November because of the end of year. It's impossible to know what the effect would have been had the campaign not been happening. This, too, will be a slow burn. Donations over a long term will trend downward because UAB has pushed away recent graduates. I'm 32, and finally in a financial position that I can make real, meaningful donations vs. the simple ticket purchases and alumni association fees. Now, instead of donating multiple thousands of dollars like they count on from alumni as they reach the good, solid earning periods of their careers, UAB will be dead to me as long as Ray Watts is President. This is a long term trend that won't happen overnight.

And the irony of this coming from an Arts and Sciences senator is amazing. He/she should be desperately worried, because CAS is the primary place that will get drained if the board is truly wanting to diminish UAB as a traditional university.

What do you want to bet that they count the money pledged for football as donations to the Fund for UAB? Assuming Watts allows it back, of course, because they're just scraps of paper otherwise.

Oh they most definitely will! That's why they used the FN form with the Campaign letterhead.

We need courageous UAB employees to speak on condition of anonymity to al.com regarding the drop in recruiting and donations. I also have heard that undergrad recruiting is really suffering.

(05-14-2015 10:41 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: [ -> ]What do you want to bet that they count the money pledged for football as donations to the Fund for UAB? Assuming Watts allows it back, of course, because they're just scraps of paper otherwise.

Every penny UAB brings in via donations during the campaign, whether specifically for the campaign or donations that would have otherwise been made like season ticket donations for basketball, count in the number.

I have been told that donations to United Way through UAB have even dried up because when the United Way comes and talks with faculty/staff to ask for donations, they have to disclose that any donations will be counted towards the Campaign for UAB and Ray Watts is so toxic that people aren't even giving to this.

UAB Benevolent Fund is taking a hit too.