01-25-2015, 01:44 PM
Has anyone heard anything about the impact on UAB Medical of Cooper Green Mercy in-patient closing and such reality having largely led to the budgetary analysis going on of the athletics department.
(01-25-2015 05:02 PM)Island Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]Since the CGM in-patient closing, has anyone been to UAB ER on a cold night? Just asking. Heard stories.
(01-25-2015 05:18 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ]I dont know about you , but folks in my family have wanted to be at home in their own beds when the time comes, not hooked up to a bunch of iv lines, monitors, and intubated.(01-25-2015 05:02 PM)Island Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]Since the CGM in-patient closing, has anyone been to UAB ER on a cold night? Just asking. Heard stories.
The ER is just the beginning of the story. How many- like my daughter's story above - are admitted just long enough to get them "stable" enough to be sent home, perhaps to die quietly and anonymously once they are back home and off the hospital's "books"?
(01-25-2015 06:32 PM)BlazrDawg Wrote: [ -> ](01-25-2015 05:18 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ]I dont know about you , but folks in my family have wanted to be at home in their own beds when the time comes, not hooked up to a bunch of iv lines, monitors, and intubated.(01-25-2015 05:02 PM)Island Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]Since the CGM in-patient closing, has anyone been to UAB ER on a cold night? Just asking. Heard stories.
The ER is just the beginning of the story. How many- like my daughter's story above - are admitted just long enough to get them "stable" enough to be sent home, perhaps to die quietly and anonymously once they are back home and off the hospital's "books"?
(01-25-2015 05:02 PM)Island Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]Since the CGM in-patient closing, has anyone been to UAB ER on a cold night? Just asking. Heard stories.
(01-25-2015 05:02 PM)Island Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]Since the CGM in-patient closing, has anyone been to UAB ER on a cold night? Just asking. Heard stories.
(01-25-2015 04:57 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ]My only personal family experience regarding Cooper Green Mercy changes and UAB "taking up the slack" relate to my 49 year old daughter who was a patient in the oncology care unit of Cooper Green in 2012 when the county government closed it. She was shifted to a charity status care at UAB, put in an ICU unit in the West Pavilion on Monday August 13. After 3 days in ICU, she was moved for one day to a regular room and then dismissed/discharged on Friday the 17th, and sent home. On Monday the 20th, she died - 3 weeks before her 50th birthday. Her death therefore did not "count" against either hospital's record.
That experience has led me to ask how many similar cases of poor Alabamians dying anonymously at home have been ignored by those who continue to block the expansion of Medicaid in Alabama. People who as an anonymous group, simply don't matter to those in high positions of power.
(01-26-2015 12:59 AM)stc Wrote: [ -> ](01-25-2015 04:57 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote: [ -> ]My only personal family experience regarding Cooper Green Mercy changes and UAB "taking up the slack" relate to my 49 year old daughter who was a patient in the oncology care unit of Cooper Green in 2012 when the county government closed it. She was shifted to a charity status care at UAB, put in an ICU unit in the West Pavilion on Monday August 13. After 3 days in ICU, she was moved for one day to a regular room and then dismissed/discharged on Friday the 17th, and sent home. On Monday the 20th, she died - 3 weeks before her 50th birthday. Her death therefore did not "count" against either hospital's record.
That experience has led me to ask how many similar cases of poor Alabamians dying anonymously at home have been ignored by those who continue to block the expansion of Medicaid in Alabama. People who as an anonymous group, simply don't matter to those in high positions of power.
Not sure what to say after a post like that. I agree on your points. I'm really sorry for your loss and the pain you and your family must have endured. I can't imagine....
(01-25-2015 02:19 PM)Agent Orange Sauce Wrote: [ -> ]Medical industry in state's that use extended medicaid are already seeing big gains...Alabama needs to get on board.
(01-26-2015 10:42 AM)BatesUAB Wrote: [ -> ](01-25-2015 02:19 PM)Agent Orange Sauce Wrote: [ -> ]Medical industry in state's that use extended medicaid are already seeing big gains...Alabama needs to get on board.
Risking this turning into a political conversation.....Yes, they are seeing gains right now. What happens when the federal funding disappears? A tapering was built into the law that starts reducing the federal funding in the third year. You can bet the farm on the funding completely drying up, leaving the State holding the tab. And I don't know if you realize this or not, but we aren't exactly flush with cash. To advocate for expansion based on the current numbers is shortsighted. And that is exactly what the drafters of the ACA wanted- states jumping at federal money without thinking of hte repercussions.
(01-26-2015 10:47 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote: [ -> ](01-26-2015 10:42 AM)BatesUAB Wrote: [ -> ](01-25-2015 02:19 PM)Agent Orange Sauce Wrote: [ -> ]Medical industry in state's that use extended medicaid are already seeing big gains...Alabama needs to get on board.
Risking this turning into a political conversation.....Yes, they are seeing gains right now. What happens when the federal funding disappears? A tapering was built into the law that starts reducing the federal funding in the third year. You can bet the farm on the funding completely drying up, leaving the State holding the tab. And I don't know if you realize this or not, but we aren't exactly flush with cash. To advocate for expansion based on the current numbers is shortsighted. And that is exactly what the drafters of the ACA wanted- states jumping at federal money without thinking of hte repercussions.
So what do we do? No one has put out any alternatives of what they'd like to see, other than people going bankrupt or dying in the street because they can't afford to have cancer.
And this entire discussion is germane to the current football situation. While football money won't be getting diverted to the hospital or school of medicine, the increases that would eventually be coming (while obviously not the $50 million made up number) would put an even bigger strain on the medical side.
You can either be a fiscal conservative or you can advocate for a strong, vibrant UAB that operates based on government funding--including Obama Care. Pick one. The straddling the fence of absolute staunch Ayn Rand conservatives who also want a money-losing publicly-funded football program is mind-boggling.
(01-26-2015 10:47 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote: [ -> ](01-26-2015 10:42 AM)BatesUAB Wrote: [ -> ](01-25-2015 02:19 PM)Agent Orange Sauce Wrote: [ -> ]Medical industry in state's that use extended medicaid are already seeing big gains...Alabama needs to get on board.
Risking this turning into a political conversation.....Yes, they are seeing gains right now. What happens when the federal funding disappears? A tapering was built into the law that starts reducing the federal funding in the third year. You can bet the farm on the funding completely drying up, leaving the State holding the tab. And I don't know if you realize this or not, but we aren't exactly flush with cash. To advocate for expansion based on the current numbers is shortsighted. And that is exactly what the drafters of the ACA wanted- states jumping at federal money without thinking of hte repercussions.
So what do we do? No one has put out any alternatives of what they'd like to see, other than people going bankrupt or dying in the street because they can't afford to have cancer.
And this entire discussion is germane to the current football situation. While football money won't be getting diverted to the hospital or school of medicine, the increases that would eventually be coming (while obviously not the $50 million made up number) would put an even bigger strain on the medical side.
You can either be a fiscal conservative or you can advocate for a strong, vibrant UAB that operates based on government funding--including Obama Care. Pick one. The straddling the fence of absolute staunch Ayn Rand conservatives who also want a money-losing publicly-funded football program is mind-boggling.
(01-25-2015 01:44 PM)Island Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]Has anyone heard anything about the impact on UAB Medical of Cooper Green Mercy in-patient closing and such reality having largely led to the budgetary analysis going on of the athletics department.