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Marshall is nowhere to be seen in the CFB playoff rankings. The coach's and the AP don't mean squat, so how is Marshall ranked 18?
(11-22-2014 07:37 PM)rook360 Wrote: [ -> ]Marshall is nowhere to be seen in the CFB playoff rankings. The coach's and the AP don't mean squat, so how is Marshall ranked 18?

What does that even mean? For years you would see a different ranking on ESPN (using the Coaches' Poll) than everywhere else (using the AP). The CFB playoff rankings aren't technically a poll as there are no votes tallied (and no voting at all, for that matter). It's a committee making a list...call it an "editorial" piece from the college football "board." Meanwhile, whether the AP or Coaches' polls are "used" (they are, in fact, as the committee has said they consider them as part of their deliberations) teams are still "ranked" in the sense that term has meant for all of the years of all but the oldest of us.
Being ranked in every major poll, minus one.... leads me to believe we are in fact, ranked. I omit the 1, scandalous, discriminating, incompetent p5 poll from consideration.
Why do they even rank as many teams as they do. Only the top 4 plus a few looking in from the outside matter
I'm not knocking Marshall.

What I'm trying to figure is how is Marshall gonna get the access bowl when they aren't ranked in the CFB PO. If Marshall goes undefeated (damned fg) then I think they should, but they are not showing up in the committee ranking like ECU was.
No G5 team is in their rankings but someone is gonna get that bowl.
(11-22-2014 09:25 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]No G5 team is in their rankings but someone is gonna get that bowl.

Exactly. It's not automatically the "highest ranked G5 team in the playoff committee's" list that gets the G5 spot. Just like the top G5 conference, they will designate the G5 team that goes to the Peach. Just like the NCAA tourney committee handing out at-large bids. Now, sure, it's likely they would also have the G5 team they designate the highest ranked G5 team in their list - if just for appearances - but it's their decision on "selection Sunday" that counts. These Tuesday lists are just PR.
(11-22-2014 09:25 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]No G5 team is in their rankings but someone is gonna get that bowl.

ECU was in week 10

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/vi...gs#week-10

So if Marshall is undefeated after the C-USA championship game does it go to the highest ranked G5 or does Marshall to be in the top 25 by commitee?
The highest ranked G5 team won't necessarily be in the Top 25. The committee will choose who they think is best.
(11-22-2014 09:44 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]The highest ranked G5 team won't necessarily be in the Top 25. The committee will choose who they think is best.

So we still have a shot? 03-lmfao
It's not the highest ranked G5 team -- it's the highest ranked G5 conference champion, as ranked by the playoff committee. If no G5 conference champion is ranked, then the committee will decide which champion they feel is deserving of the bowl slot -- without revealing how they made the decision.

I imagine they have no intent of including Marshall, regardless of how it finishes its season.
(11-22-2014 09:48 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-22-2014 09:44 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]The highest ranked G5 team won't necessarily be in the Top 25. The committee will choose who they think is best.

So we still have a shot? 03-lmfao

And thats what I'm getting at. Just because Marshall is undefeated doesn't mean they'll get the access bowl. You still have CSU and I think ECU to worry about. Hell, the committee can pick no one.
(11-22-2014 09:52 PM)rook360 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-22-2014 09:48 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-22-2014 09:44 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]The highest ranked G5 team won't necessarily be in the Top 25. The committee will choose who they think is best.

So we still have a shot? 03-lmfao

And thsts what I'm getting at. Just because Marshall is undefeated doesn't mean they'll get the access boel. You still have CSU and I think ECU to worry about. Hell, the committee can pick no one.

Incorrect. The new system guarantees the highest ranked G-5 conference champion a seat at the New Year's Six table. If one isn't ranked, then the committee has to choose the team it deems the best of the five.
Or they'll just omit anyone who isn't in the vaunted "P5" altogether. It seems to be their intention. I hate to say it but I liked the BCS better. At least there was a wildcard factor. This "CFP" removes all doubt. ALL HAIL THE SUPREME FIVE!!!
Ps. My apologies I'm a little pissed off

Pss. That may become my signature
Dennis Dodd said essentially that on CBSSports.com earlier this week:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...teams-dont
(11-22-2014 10:01 PM)DGriffin Wrote: [ -> ]Or they'll just omit anyone who isn't in the vaunted "P5" altogether. It seems to be their intention. I hate to say it but I liked the BCS better. At least there was a wildcard factor. This "CFP" removes all doubt. ALL HAIL THE SUPREME FIVE!!!
Ps. My apologies I'm a little pissed off

Pss. That may become my signature

They can't just omit anyone from the G5 conferences, they have to pick a G5 team for that one slot (plus, they have to pick the top G5 conference for an extra payout). It's in the contracts and framework in plain language. Unless, of course, they want to get sued like no one has been sued before and have the IRS finally set loose on their asses.
(11-22-2014 09:50 PM)Grammar-Nazi Wrote: [ -> ]It's not the highest ranked G5 team -- it's the highest ranked G5 conference champion, as ranked by the playoff committee. If no G5 conference champion is ranked, then the committee will decide which champion they feel is deserving of the bowl slot -- without revealing how they made the decision.

I imagine they have no intent of including Marshall, regardless of how it finishes its season.

GN, I may be remembering incorrectly but I don't even think the language says "highest ranked G5 champion." Just that one of the G5 champs must be designated. Do I think they would skip over one G5 champ who is in their rankings for another who's not? No. It's their list so they can work it however they like and that would make no sense. But, technically, it's possible as it's 100% in the hands of the committee.
(11-22-2014 10:04 PM)Grammar-Nazi Wrote: [ -> ]Dennis Dodd said essentially that on CBSSports.com earlier this week:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...teams-dont

That's what I'm getting at. Not to mention this:

"Marshall should win out, finish 13-0, and get a New Year's Six bowl bid. As long it remains unranked we don't know for sure where it stands."

So essentially, Marshall isn't ranked. No matter what you or I say. It all comes down to the CFB committee and espn.... again.
(11-22-2014 11:11 PM)rook360 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-22-2014 10:04 PM)Grammar-Nazi Wrote: [ -> ]Dennis Dodd said essentially that on CBSSports.com earlier this week:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...teams-dont

That's what I'm getting at. Not to mention this:

"Marshall should win out, finish 13-0, and get a New Year's Six bowl bid. As long it remains unranked we don't know for sure where it stands."

So essentially, Marshall isn't ranked. No matter what you or I say. It all comes down to the CFB committee and espn.... again.

I think the committee addressed Marshall last week, saying that they were not ranked because of their weak schedule. They did say they were very close to being ranked. However, because of their new made-up criteria of "game control", I doubt they get any closer after their game against us this week.
(11-22-2014 11:14 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-22-2014 11:11 PM)rook360 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-22-2014 10:04 PM)Grammar-Nazi Wrote: [ -> ]Dennis Dodd said essentially that on CBSSports.com earlier this week:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...teams-dont

That's what I'm getting at. Not to mention this:

"Marshall should win out, finish 13-0, and get a New Year's Six bowl bid. As long it remains unranked we don't know for sure where it stands."

So essentially, Marshall isn't ranked. No matter what you or I say. It all comes down to the CFB committee and espn.... again.

I think the committee addressed Marshall last week, saying that they were not ranked because of their weak schedule.
They did say they were very close to being ranked. However, because of their new made-up criteria of "game control", I doubt they get any closer after their game against us this week.

No matter how you phrase it, MARSHALL. ISN'T. RANKED.
I think it's bs they aren't, because it leaves room for CSU or some other bs eye test. Just go to a playoff of conference champs.
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