I've constantly read reasons why Toledo does not deserve a bowl bid. Now I want to hear from those have commented is why Ohio deserves it over the Rockets. (and you can have a football game without any bands......
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This is for reasons why Ohio University deserves it over Toledo!!!!!!!
GO!!!!!!
(12-09-2013 10:49 AM)Terry Wrote: [ -> ]I've constantly read reasons why Toledo does not deserve a bowl bid. Now I want to hear from those have commented is why Ohio deserves it over the Rockets. (and you can have a football game without any bands......)
This is for reasons why Ohio University deserves it over Toledo!!!!!!!
GO!!!!!!
I can't figure it out either Terry but I have some serious issues with the coaching of the safeties and corner backs. Our DL and LBs are solid - the secondary is very weak against the pass. That has to change for the Rockets to be a contender in the MAC. On the flip side, we need to develop several strong receivers who can run routes and hold onto the ball. Zo will be a target of every team. He'll need help next year and lots of it.
(12-09-2013 11:58 AM)Nick in Cleveland Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.tampabay.com/sports/college/o...wl/2156152
according to the T-B Times, here is why they picked Ohio over UT
Interesting. I get the emphasis on selling tickets as that is really the only reason most of the bowls even exist anymore. I can't argue what I don't know--maybe Ohio U does have 3,000 alums in the Tampa/St. Pete area. I would think that while Toledo may not have the "alums", there still have to be quite a few retirees/transplants from the Toledo area down there? Obviously not enough to make the issue a stalemate.
I am disappointed that attendance figures were apparently a factor, though. We played our first home game, and only one in September, and only one with great weather, against Eastern Washington, which just wasn't gonna draw much of a crowd. Then, it rained all day on Homecoming, and while the rain cleared at game time, I'm sure many people had already made the decision to stay home. The Navy game was played ina constant rain--not hard, bust still ongoing and when compared with the cold, that also pulled attendance down. And we have already debated the impact that playing the final 2 home games, in November, on week nights, with one being a pretty late start for a TV game and not ending until midnight-ish. So, kudos to Ohio for drawing better thru the season, but I'm not sure UT could have drawn much more given the way the game schedule and weather played out.
Much easier for me to just accept that we lost to Akron and that alone would have cost us a bowl game; seeing what I think are silly comparisons by bowl sponsors between OU and UT as "justification" don't seem necessary?
Lots of weight put on home attendance according to the article. We bend over backwards for ESPN and the MAC to weight our Novemeber schedule for the TV games and we ultimately get screwed because home fans don't want to attend a weeknight game that ends at midnight, F#$King MAC. OU played during the week in November as well, but played on the road twice, thus not affecting home attendance. We played two at home. Granted fans should show up no matter what, but they just don't in the MAC when the weather is fair.
We also step up in schedule difficulty to play the big boys and compete fairly well, which also messed up our Home vs Away schedule and kills fan support at the early, potentially good weather games. All those beautiful football Saturdays in Sept. and Oct. and the Rockets were on the road. Even our bye week ended up being spectacular football weather, dumb luck this year.
Toss in the unlucky weather either rainy or cold for the rest of our home games and you have a fan base that for the most part was taken out of the picture this year.
You would think we have approx the same alumni base across Florida so I don't buy that BS.
bcunn we were typing the same email at the same time. ha! Plus OU had 7 compared to our 6 home games and they still only barely managed to squeak out attendance higher than us. Maybe they had horrible weather as well and their fans showed up, but using attendance without looking at other factors is BS.
(12-09-2013 12:27 PM)emanoh Wrote: [ -> ]bcunn we were typing the same email at the same time. ha! Plus OU had 7 compared to our 6 home games and they still only barely managed to squeak out attendance higher than us. Maybe they had horrible weather as well and their fans showed up, but using attendance without looking at other factors is BS.
Great minds think alike, isn't that how the saying goes?
(12-09-2013 12:36 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2013 12:27 PM)emanoh Wrote: [ -> ]bcunn we were typing the same email at the same time. ha! Plus OU had 7 compared to our 6 home games and they still only barely managed to squeak out attendance higher than us. Maybe they had horrible weather as well and their fans showed up, but using attendance without looking at other factors is BS.
Great minds think alike, isn't that how the saying goes?
Seriously higher attendance at OU. I would bet the biggest difference is student body attendance not paying customers that will travel. What he should have done is look at which university has more athletic revenue via donation and the amount of season tickets. Those folks are the ones that are most likely to travel. In addition, we have at least 600 alums in the Tampa Bay area alone. How many does Toledo have in Florida?
(12-09-2013 12:48 PM)tampabayrocketfan Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2013 12:36 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2013 12:27 PM)emanoh Wrote: [ -> ]bcunn we were typing the same email at the same time. ha! Plus OU had 7 compared to our 6 home games and they still only barely managed to squeak out attendance higher than us. Maybe they had horrible weather as well and their fans showed up, but using attendance without looking at other factors is BS.
Great minds think alike, isn't that how the saying goes?
Seriously higher attendance at OU. I would bet the biggest difference is student body attendance not paying customers that will travel. What he should have done is look at which university has more athletic revenue via donation and the amount of season tickets. Those folks are the ones that are most likely to travel. In addition, we have at least 600 alums in the Tampa Bay area alone. How many does Toledo have in Florida?
I know the Toledo Alumni Association has a number of chapters in Florida. I can name 3 off my head. Tampa, Orlando, and Ft. Meyers. I'm willing to say that Toledo has 3,000 alums ins Fla. as well.
Also, Toledo moved the Navy game to noon because ESPN asked it to. and day games always hurts Toledo's attendence numbers.
Because brady Hoke and UofM fans keep referring to OSU as OHIO. So the bowls thought they were getting a BCS school
Yeah it's interesting how The sports channel needed a game for it's noon eastern time slot, and they chose us. Now, being against The Navy clearly helped, but The Navy was the ones coming to the Glass Bowl to begin with. We get games like that which bring exposure to the MAC, and a quality win. Now if 12 other schools were able to do that, the MAC wouldn't be such a bad conference to be a member of.
Also interesting that the sports channel had the choice between Toledo/Buffalo or Ohio U./Bowling Green earlier this year, and also chose us.
(12-09-2013 01:12 PM)therockets046 Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah it's interesting how The sports channel needed a game for it's noon eastern time slot, and they chose us. Now, being against The Navy clearly helped, but The Navy was the ones coming to the Glass Bowl to begin with. We get games like that which bring exposure to the MAC, and a quality win. Now if 12 other schools were able to do that, the MAC wouldn't be such a bad conference to be a member of.
Also interesting that the sports channel had the choice between Toledo/Buffalo or Ohio U./Bowling Green earlier this year, and also chose us.
If you remember the Navy game was on ESPN NEWS channel. How many people actually have that??? Take one for ESPN and they take you out.
(12-09-2013 10:49 AM)Terry Wrote: [ -> ]I've constantly read reasons why Toledo does not deserve a bowl bid. Now I want to hear from those have commented is why Ohio deserves it over the Rockets. (and you can have a football game without any bands......)
This is for reasons why Ohio University deserves it over Toledo!!!!!!!
GO!!!!!!
Ohio U will bring more people. $$$$$. Rocket blogs indicated lack of interest.
Yeah, forgot we moved the Navy game, again bending over backwards for Conf. and ESPN only to get screwed.
Went to the Ohio MACbbs and the last post registred was from September and it was by a Rocket? Great fan support.
(12-09-2013 01:48 PM)emanoh Wrote: [ -> ]Went to the Ohio MACbbs and the last post registred was from September and it was by a Rocket? Great fan support.
We have a separate board.
http://www.bobcatattack.com
I was hoping NIU would win the MACCG and wed both go bowling.
That would have just opened up the opportunity for the MAC office to lobby for Central Michigan over us just like last year. Hey, the Chippys finished strong.
The bobcat fans on their board are just as delusional as us.
As I have mentioned in previous posts, talking about "deserving" and "bowl games" in the same sentence is an oxy-moron.
I think that most people are offended by Ohio getting that bowl simply because they think it means the bowl folks believe that Ohio is a better football team than UT but that is not it at all. It is simply about selling tickets and getting TV ratings, not rewarding teams for a good season.
That said, I would be still be interested about what role (if any) the MAC front office played in their decision-----I have never heard of any reaction by them to Coach K's threat last spring "to hang a banner", but I strongly suspect that they have not forgotten about it. Power structures do not tolerate insubordination or challenges to their authority, which is why they are never to be trusted.