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From a first reading of Hatch's remarks, the biggest stumbling block to a "super conference" made up of the richest big boy programs in America is that these want to be assured that they won't be limited to playing ONLY each other and will continue to be assured of a stream of peasant conference teams to give them the 7 or 8 home games (with their likely Ws) that generate many tens of millions of $$$ every year. Teams of their own rank won't agree to perpetually playing "away" to the benefit of fellow heavy weights. That means that a 12 game schedule would translate into only 6 home games per year and they wouldn't go along with the token pay out the peasant schools usually get.

One problem Boise State has run into is that they feel they have "arrived" and no longer are willing to play only "away games" with the "Big Boys", but those "Big Boys" still won't sign H&H contracts with Boise.

What might be the result IF the NCAA was to punish the "Big Boys" if schools like Boise documented that they had repeatedly asked a team (like Bama) to make a fair H&H contract like they sign with each other and been rebuffed? What if such behavior was punishable by loss of scholarships for a few years? Instead of asking derisively "Who have they played?" - see Louisville, they might ask "Who has refused to play you?"

Of course he doesn't. Because he and the NCAA would be out of power if that happened.

(10-29-2013 04:37 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]Of course he doesn't. Because he and the NCAA would be out of power if that happened.

They MIGHT be less powerful among the "Big Boys" schools, but they would remain "The Man" with the majority below them - as long as their rights to be really separate are protected. If the 3 dozen Big Boy schools are allowed "to have their cake and eat it too", by continuing to harvest tens of millions of $$$ from playing the lesser schools, then you may be correct.

If the Big Boys are forced to play only each other, even outside the NCAA, their so proudly boasted records may not be so easily obtained. As it is today, these guys play 4 teams every year AT HOME that practically guarantee them 4 wins to make bowl eligibility for even lesser teams much easier.

What might bust up is the present conference line up since many of the lesser teams might choose to stay put within the NCAA.

The question is what does Mike Slive envision.

I don't either. I will be shocked if it happens in spite of all the sword rattling.

All Hatch is saying is if the the NCAA BOD gets its way is that all three hundred current division one will remain in some form of division 1 instead of a new breakaway division ?4?.

""From what I've heard in the association, I think people would like to have one Division I, but in some ways, a structure that will make certain differentiations between small conferences and big conferences," said Hatch, president at Wake Forest University. "I think people like having one division."

However the big boys would be able to make their own rules just like they want. Interestingly CUSA, MWC and others will be allowed into the new subdivision 1"Z" in latest rumored form. Although the BCS will make sure to retain a majority of the votes.

This boards agenda wishes such as requiring home and home between the bib boys and lessor schools has as much chance of passing as a snowball in hell.

So the story doesn't quite make sense. At first they say there won't be a new "subdivision" but then talk about a new structure for the BCS teams to remain in Division I but have their own rules. Isn't that exactly a subdivision like FCS and FBS are subdivisions?

And then there's a nugget where teams with money will be able to change the rules to benefit themselves, and others can comply or not. So basically what is coming out of this, if no new division or subdivision is on the table, is essentially eliminating NCAA rules altogether.

My favorite bit is this line: " As an example, if wealthier schools decided to deregulate how many meals they could feed athletes, smaller-revenue schools in Division I would theoretically be able to operate with the same freedom if they could afford it."

How many meal tickets to the Ferguson Center Dining Hall does it take to get a new car from Tuscaloosa Chevrolet?

(10-29-2013 07:41 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: [ -> ]The question is what does Mike Slive envision.

This, sadly, is the cold hard truth

(10-29-2013 07:57 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote: [ -> ]I don't either. I will be shocked if it happens in spite of all the sword rattling.

It will happen as soon as the C USA -MWC merger goes thru, right?