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(12-09-2016 01:34 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2016 12:43 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Well thanks to Larry Scott the PAC's interest in moving to 16 has been declared. The timeline is naturally vague. Stay tuned!

But if the PAC is announcing interest now it isn't accidental. But then neither was the Big 12's refusal to expand.

I wouldn't call it smoke, but it is a spark in a very dry environment.

Larry Scott said he sees all content being broadcasted on the PAC Network preferably and sold to other networks if need be. He has the same ideal goal as Delaney but seems realistic as to what his financial options will be due to the carriage of its Network.

Major TV contacts end for the PAC, Big Ten and Big 12 at about the same time. If a more profitable model appears or survival mode kicks in, those schools will be in best position to act at that time.

The SEC / CBS contract is up before any of them. It might provide us the opportunity to act early. We'll see.

(12-09-2016 01:49 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-09-2016 01:34 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2016 12:43 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Well thanks to Larry Scott the PAC's interest in moving to 16 has been declared. The timeline is naturally vague. Stay tuned!

But if the PAC is announcing interest now it isn't accidental. But then neither was the Big 12's refusal to expand.

I wouldn't call it smoke, but it is a spark in a very dry environment.

Larry Scott said he sees all content being broadcasted on the PAC Network preferably and sold to other networks if need be. He has the same ideal goal as Delaney but seems realistic as to what his financial options will be due to the carriage of its Network.

Major TV contacts end for the PAC, Big Ten and Big 12 at about the same time. If a more profitable model appears or survival mode kicks in, those schools will be in best position to act at that time.

The SEC / CBS contract is up before any of them. It might provide us the opportunity to act early. We'll see.

I could see Fox bidding on that one. That would really open up the bidding wars.

I would also try to secure some blue blood football teams. I would try to secure Oklahoma by offering them and their two favorite rivals Oklahoma State and Texas while rounding out with basketball blue blood and Mizzou rival Kansas. I would expect Texas to probably decline due to political pressure, thus insert WVU

(12-11-2016 07:07 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-09-2016 01:49 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-09-2016 01:34 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2016 12:43 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Well thanks to Larry Scott the PAC's interest in moving to 16 has been declared. The timeline is naturally vague. Stay tuned!

But if the PAC is announcing interest now it isn't accidental. But then neither was the Big 12's refusal to expand.

I wouldn't call it smoke, but it is a spark in a very dry environment.

Larry Scott said he sees all content being broadcasted on the PAC Network preferably and sold to other networks if need be. He has the same ideal goal as Delaney but seems realistic as to what his financial options will be due to the carriage of its Network.

Major TV contacts end for the PAC, Big Ten and Big 12 at about the same time. If a more profitable model appears or survival mode kicks in, those schools will be in best position to act at that time.

The SEC / CBS contract is up before any of them. It might provide us the opportunity to act early. We'll see.

I could see Fox bidding on that one. That would really open up the bidding wars.

I would also try to secure some blue blood football teams. I would try to secure Oklahoma by offering them and their two favorite rivals Oklahoma State and Texas while rounding out with basketball blue blood and Mizzou rival Kansas. I would expect Texas to probably decline due to political pressure, thus insert WVU

That would be a very nice settling position. I really would like to see us get 18. The divisions just set up so much more economically at 6, and having a best at large for a future conference semi would keep more of our fans energized deep into the season. Kansas is alien to most of the SEC. But they would fit very well in a new six team Western division made up of Big 12 & SWC schools.

(12-11-2016 07:07 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-09-2016 01:49 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-09-2016 01:34 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2016 12:43 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Well thanks to Larry Scott the PAC's interest in moving to 16 has been declared. The timeline is naturally vague. Stay tuned!

But if the PAC is announcing interest now it isn't accidental. But then neither was the Big 12's refusal to expand.

I wouldn't call it smoke, but it is a spark in a very dry environment.

Larry Scott said he sees all content being broadcasted on the PAC Network preferably and sold to other networks if need be. He has the same ideal goal as Delaney but seems realistic as to what his financial options will be due to the carriage of its Network.

Major TV contacts end for the PAC, Big Ten and Big 12 at about the same time. If a more profitable model appears or survival mode kicks in, those schools will be in best position to act at that time.

The SEC / CBS contract is up before any of them. It might provide us the opportunity to act early. We'll see.

I could see Fox bidding on that one. That would really open up the bidding wars.

I would also try to secure some blue blood football teams. I would try to secure Oklahoma by offering them and their two favorite rivals Oklahoma State and Texas while rounding out with basketball blue blood and Mizzou rival Kansas. I would expect Texas to probably decline due to political pressure, thus insert WVU

Fox would give us plenty of money in return, but they'd want flexibility and to put us on FS1 in return. Fox is notorious for inconsistent scheduling and I think it hurts their branding.

I've been annoyed with CBS at times, but we just need a network to give us the prime spot for a good rate. If CBS is willing to pay up then I'd stick with them. Although what I would really like is to sell more basketball games to CBS too.

(12-11-2016 07:13 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-11-2016 07:07 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-09-2016 01:49 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-09-2016 01:34 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-08-2016 12:43 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Well thanks to Larry Scott the PAC's interest in moving to 16 has been declared. The timeline is naturally vague. Stay tuned!

But if the PAC is announcing interest now it isn't accidental. But then neither was the Big 12's refusal to expand.

I wouldn't call it smoke, but it is a spark in a very dry environment.

Larry Scott said he sees all content being broadcasted on the PAC Network preferably and sold to other networks if need be. He has the same ideal goal as Delaney but seems realistic as to what his financial options will be due to the carriage of its Network.

Major TV contacts end for the PAC, Big Ten and Big 12 at about the same time. If a more profitable model appears or survival mode kicks in, those schools will be in best position to act at that time.

The SEC / CBS contract is up before any of them. It might provide us the opportunity to act early. We'll see.

I could see Fox bidding on that one. That would really open up the bidding wars.

I would also try to secure some blue blood football teams. I would try to secure Oklahoma by offering them and their two favorite rivals Oklahoma State and Texas while rounding out with basketball blue blood and Mizzou rival Kansas. I would expect Texas to probably decline due to political pressure, thus insert WVU

That would be a very nice settling position. I really would like to see us get 18. The divisions just set up so much more economically at 6, and having a best at large for a future conference semi would keep more of our fans energized deep into the season. Kansas is alien to most of the SEC. But they would fit very well in a new six team Western division made up of Big 12 & SWC schools.

As much fun as divisions are, I was thinking about having an open table format where the 4 highest rated or winningest SEC teams enter the conference semifinals. Also, change to a 9 game slate with 5 permanent rivals and rotate the other 12 members every three years with the open four slots.

How's this 18-team SEC with new additions OU, OSU, Texas, and Kansas and each teams' 5 permanent rivals:
Florida: USC, UGa, Tenn, Aub, OU
USC: Mizz, UK, Vandy, UGa, UF
UGa: USC, UF, Aub, Tenn, MSU
Aub: UGA, UF, LSU, MSU, Ala
Ala: Aub, Tenn, LSU, A&M, MSU
Tenn: UGa, UF, Ala, Vandy, UK
UK: USC, Tenn, Vandy, Mizz, KU
Vandy: Uk, USC, Tenn, MSU, OSU
MSU: Ole, Vandy, Ala, Aub, UGa
Ole: MSU, LSU, A&M, OSU, Ark
Ark: Ole, LSU, A&M, Texas, Mizz
Mizz: KU, OU, OSU, Ark, USC
LSU: A&M, Ark, Ole, Ala, Aub
A&M: Texas, Ark, Ole, LSU, Ala
KU: Mizz, UK, OSU,OU, Tex
OSU: Vandy, Ole, Tex, OU, KU
OU: KU, Mizz, OSU, Tex, UF
Texas: KU, OU, OSU, Ark, A&M

(12-12-2016 12:55 AM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-11-2016 07:13 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-11-2016 07:07 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-09-2016 01:49 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-09-2016 01:34 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]Larry Scott said he sees all content being broadcasted on the PAC Network preferably and sold to other networks if need be. He has the same ideal goal as Delaney but seems realistic as to what his financial options will be due to the carriage of its Network.

Major TV contacts end for the PAC, Big Ten and Big 12 at about the same time. If a more profitable model appears or survival mode kicks in, those schools will be in best position to act at that time.

The SEC / CBS contract is up before any of them. It might provide us the opportunity to act early. We'll see.

I could see Fox bidding on that one. That would really open up the bidding wars.

I would also try to secure some blue blood football teams. I would try to secure Oklahoma by offering them and their two favorite rivals Oklahoma State and Texas while rounding out with basketball blue blood and Mizzou rival Kansas. I would expect Texas to probably decline due to political pressure, thus insert WVU

That would be a very nice settling position. I really would like to see us get 18. The divisions just set up so much more economically at 6, and having a best at large for a future conference semi would keep more of our fans energized deep into the season. Kansas is alien to most of the SEC. But they would fit very well in a new six team Western division made up of Big 12 & SWC schools.

As much fun as divisions are, I was thinking about having an open table format where the 4 highest rated or winningest SEC teams enter the conference semifinals. Also, change to a 9 game slate with 5 permanent rivals and rotate the other 12 members every three years with the open four slots.

How's this 18-team SEC with new additions OU, OSU, Texas, and Kansas and each teams' 5 permanent rivals:
Florida: USC, UGa, Tenn, Aub, OU
USC: Mizz, UK, Vandy, UGa, UF
UGa: USC, UF, Aub, Tenn, MSU
Aub: UGA, UF, LSU, MSU, Ala
Ala: Aub, Tenn, LSU, A&M, MSU
Tenn: UGa, UF, Ala, Vandy, UK
UK: USC, Tenn, Vandy, Mizz, KU
Vandy: Uk, USC, Tenn, MSU, OSU
MSU: Ole, Vandy, Ala, Aub, UGa
Ole: MSU, LSU, A&M, OSU, Ark
Ark: Ole, LSU, A&M, Texas, Mizz
Mizz: KU, OU, OSU, Ark, USC
LSU: A&M, Ark, Ole, Ala, Aub
A&M: Texas, Ark, Ole, LSU, Ala
KU: Mizz, UK, OSU,OU, Tex
OSU: Vandy, Ole, Tex, OU, KU
OU: KU, Mizz, OSU, Tex, UF
Texas: KU, OU, OSU, Ark, A&M

I like the additions, but I wouldn't go divisionless with 18. I think you'd end up with too many tiebreakers deciding who went to the semi-final.

(12-13-2016 04:31 AM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2016 12:55 AM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-11-2016 07:13 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-11-2016 07:07 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-09-2016 01:49 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]The SEC / CBS contract is up before any of them. It might provide us the opportunity to act early. We'll see.

I could see Fox bidding on that one. That would really open up the bidding wars.

I would also try to secure some blue blood football teams. I would try to secure Oklahoma by offering them and their two favorite rivals Oklahoma State and Texas while rounding out with basketball blue blood and Mizzou rival Kansas. I would expect Texas to probably decline due to political pressure, thus insert WVU

That would be a very nice settling position. I really would like to see us get 18. The divisions just set up so much more economically at 6, and having a best at large for a future conference semi would keep more of our fans energized deep into the season. Kansas is alien to most of the SEC. But they would fit very well in a new six team Western division made up of Big 12 & SWC schools.

As much fun as divisions are, I was thinking about having an open table format where the 4 highest rated or winningest SEC teams enter the conference semifinals. Also, change to a 9 game slate with 5 permanent rivals and rotate the other 12 members every three years with the open four slots.

How's this 18-team SEC with new additions OU, OSU, Texas, and Kansas and each teams' 5 permanent rivals:
Florida: USC, UGa, Tenn, Aub, OU
USC: Mizz, UK, Vandy, UGa, UF
UGa: USC, UF, Aub, Tenn, MSU
Aub: UGA, UF, LSU, MSU, Ala
Ala: Aub, Tenn, LSU, A&M, MSU
Tenn: UGa, UF, Ala, Vandy, UK
UK: USC, Tenn, Vandy, Mizz, KU
Vandy: Uk, USC, Tenn, MSU, OSU
MSU: Ole, Vandy, Ala, Aub, UGa
Ole: MSU, LSU, A&M, OSU, Ark
Ark: Ole, LSU, A&M, Texas, Mizz
Mizz: KU, OU, OSU, Ark, USC
LSU: A&M, Ark, Ole, Ala, Aub
A&M: Texas, Ark, Ole, LSU, Ala
KU: Mizz, UK, OSU,OU, Tex
OSU: Vandy, Ole, Tex, OU, KU
OU: KU, Mizz, OSU, Tex, UF
Texas: KU, OU, OSU, Ark, A&M

I like the additions, but I wouldn't go divisionless with 18. I think you'd end up with too many tiebreakers deciding who went to the semi-final.

Every game matters then. The way it should be.

Bowlsby announce yesterday that the Big 12 will consider its options with regard to Baylor. If they do find a way to punish Baylor it could become a catalyst for much bigger things up to and possibly including the suspension of Baylor's vote on conference matters. It would then only take 7 votes to disband. A rancor over something like this could also push a possible dissolution.

I'm not saying anything will happen here with regards to Baylor, but at least their commissioner has opened that door. We'll see.

7 could work. Move 4 to the PAC & then 1 each to the B1G, SEC & ACC.

Maybe something like this?
PAC- Texas, TT, Oklahoma State & Iowa State

SEC- Oklahoma

B1G- Kansas

ACC- TCU

The question then becomes can ND or a G5 knock a P4 out of the CFP?

(02-05-2017 09:35 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ]7 could work. Move 4 to the PAC & then 1 each to the B1G, SEC & ACC.

Maybe something like this?
PAC- Texas, TT, Oklahoma State & Iowa State

SEC- Oklahoma

B1G- Kansas

ACC- TCU

The question then becomes can ND or a G5 knock a P4 out of the CFP?

If we move to a P4 N.D. will have to go all in and they know it. So nobody gets knocked out. It becomes an all P4.

(02-05-2017 08:17 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Bowlsby announce yesterday that the Big 12 will consider its options with regard to Baylor. If they do find a way to punish Baylor it could become a catalyst for much bigger things up to and possibly including the suspension of Baylor's vote on conference matters. It would then only take 7 votes to disband. A rancor over something like this could also push a possible dissolution.

I'm not saying anything will happen here with regards to Baylor, but at least their commissioner has opened that door. We'll see.

Considering the neglect that has gone on at that school, I would vote to kick them out. That's just my opinion though. Not that I think they'll do that...

With 7 votes you could do this:

SEC takes Oklahoma and Oklahoma State

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Houston

ACC takes West Virginia and Notre Dame

(02-05-2017 03:56 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 08:17 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Bowlsby announce yesterday that the Big 12 will consider its options with regard to Baylor. If they do find a way to punish Baylor it could become a catalyst for much bigger things up to and possibly including the suspension of Baylor's vote on conference matters. It would then only take 7 votes to disband. A rancor over something like this could also push a possible dissolution.

I'm not saying anything will happen here with regards to Baylor, but at least their commissioner has opened that door. We'll see.

Considering the neglect that has gone on at that school, I would vote to kick them out. That's just my opinion though. Not that I think they'll do that...

With 7 votes you could do this:

SEC takes Oklahoma and Oklahoma State

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Houston

ACC takes West Virginia and Notre Dame

The important thing is that no matter how the division occurs 7 is much more doable and without Baylor even 9 is not out of the realm of possibility.

(02-05-2017 04:19 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 03:56 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 08:17 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Bowlsby announce yesterday that the Big 12 will consider its options with regard to Baylor. If they do find a way to punish Baylor it could become a catalyst for much bigger things up to and possibly including the suspension of Baylor's vote on conference matters. It would then only take 7 votes to disband. A rancor over something like this could also push a possible dissolution.

I'm not saying anything will happen here with regards to Baylor, but at least their commissioner has opened that door. We'll see.

Considering the neglect that has gone on at that school, I would vote to kick them out. That's just my opinion though. Not that I think they'll do that...

With 7 votes you could do this:

SEC takes Oklahoma and Oklahoma State

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Houston

ACC takes West Virginia and Notre Dame

The important thing is that no matter how the division occurs 7 is much more doable and without Baylor even 9 is not out of the realm of possibility.

True. Things get a lot easier.

At that, if I were one of the Big 12 officials and I could guarantee 9, I would take that option yesterday.

Maybe something like this...

SEC takes Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Tulane

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Iowa State

ACC takes Notre Dame and West Virginia

(02-05-2017 05:15 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 04:19 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 03:56 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 08:17 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Bowlsby announce yesterday that the Big 12 will consider its options with regard to Baylor. If they do find a way to punish Baylor it could become a catalyst for much bigger things up to and possibly including the suspension of Baylor's vote on conference matters. It would then only take 7 votes to disband. A rancor over something like this could also push a possible dissolution.

I'm not saying anything will happen here with regards to Baylor, but at least their commissioner has opened that door. We'll see.

Considering the neglect that has gone on at that school, I would vote to kick them out. That's just my opinion though. Not that I think they'll do that...

With 7 votes you could do this:

SEC takes Oklahoma and Oklahoma State

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Houston

ACC takes West Virginia and Notre Dame

The important thing is that no matter how the division occurs 7 is much more doable and without Baylor even 9 is not out of the realm of possibility.

True. Things get a lot easier.

At that, if I were one of the Big 12 officials and I could guarantee 9, I would take that option yesterday.

Maybe something like this...

SEC takes Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Tulane

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Iowa State

ACC takes Notre Dame and West Virginia

Or maybe something a bit more economical:
SEC: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
PAC: Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U., Kansas State
Big 10: Kansas, Iowa State
ACC: West Virginia and Notre Dame joins in full.

Now we have the 4 x 16. Big 10 gets Kansas and the price is Iowa State. SEC gets Oklahoma and the price is O.S.U. The PAC gets Texas, Texas Tech, and T.C.U., and the price is Kansas State. The ACC gets N.D. to join in full and the price is W.V.U..

That's 64 and we're done.

That said, I think it will be necessary to take 4 Big 12 schools to land OU and UT. It's going to be fascinating to see how this situation with Baylor unfolds.

(02-05-2017 05:33 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 05:15 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 04:19 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 03:56 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 08:17 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Bowlsby announce yesterday that the Big 12 will consider its options with regard to Baylor. If they do find a way to punish Baylor it could become a catalyst for much bigger things up to and possibly including the suspension of Baylor's vote on conference matters. It would then only take 7 votes to disband. A rancor over something like this could also push a possible dissolution.

I'm not saying anything will happen here with regards to Baylor, but at least their commissioner has opened that door. We'll see.

Considering the neglect that has gone on at that school, I would vote to kick them out. That's just my opinion though. Not that I think they'll do that...

With 7 votes you could do this:

SEC takes Oklahoma and Oklahoma State

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Houston

ACC takes West Virginia and Notre Dame

The important thing is that no matter how the division occurs 7 is much more doable and without Baylor even 9 is not out of the realm of possibility.

True. Things get a lot easier.

At that, if I were one of the Big 12 officials and I could guarantee 9, I would take that option yesterday.

Maybe something like this...

SEC takes Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Tulane

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Iowa State

ACC takes Notre Dame and West Virginia

Or maybe something a bit more economical:
SEC: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
PAC: Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U., Kansas State
Big 10: Kansas, Iowa State
ACC: West Virginia and Notre Dame joins in full.

Now we have the 4 x 16. Big 10 gets Kansas and the price is Iowa State. SEC gets Oklahoma and the price is O.S.U. The PAC gets Texas, Texas Tech, and T.C.U., and the price is Kansas State. The ACC gets N.D. to join in full and the price is W.V.U..

That's 64 and we're done.

That said, I think it will be necessary to take 4 Big 12 schools to land OU and UT. It's going to be fascinating to see how this situation with Baylor unfolds.

It works. The rest of the Presidents would really have to be on the same page to make it happen though.

(02-05-2017 05:33 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 05:15 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 04:19 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 03:56 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 08:17 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]Bowlsby announce yesterday that the Big 12 will consider its options with regard to Baylor. If they do find a way to punish Baylor it could become a catalyst for much bigger things up to and possibly including the suspension of Baylor's vote on conference matters. It would then only take 7 votes to disband. A rancor over something like this could also push a possible dissolution.

I'm not saying anything will happen here with regards to Baylor, but at least their commissioner has opened that door. We'll see.

Considering the neglect that has gone on at that school, I would vote to kick them out. That's just my opinion though. Not that I think they'll do that...

With 7 votes you could do this:

SEC takes Oklahoma and Oklahoma State

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Houston

ACC takes West Virginia and Notre Dame

The important thing is that no matter how the division occurs 7 is much more doable and without Baylor even 9 is not out of the realm of possibility.

True. Things get a lot easier.

At that, if I were one of the Big 12 officials and I could guarantee 9, I would take that option yesterday.

Maybe something like this...

SEC takes Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Tulane

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Iowa State

ACC takes Notre Dame and West Virginia

Or maybe something a bit more economical:
SEC: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
PAC: Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U., Kansas State
Big 10: Kansas, Iowa State
ACC: West Virginia and Notre Dame joins in full.

Now we have the 4 x 16. Big 10 gets Kansas and the price is Iowa State. SEC gets Oklahoma and the price is O.S.U. The PAC gets Texas, Texas Tech, and T.C.U., and the price is Kansas State. The ACC gets N.D. to join in full and the price is W.V.U..

That's 64 and we're done.

That said, I think it will be necessary to take 4 Big 12 schools to land OU and UT. It's going to be fascinating to see how this situation with Baylor unfolds.

It would have to be Tech and OSU to land UT and OU. That could still be profitable. Just need to adjust the divisions and scheduling rules. If we do have only 4 conferences, having conference semifinals would form a defacto 16 team playoff.

Assuming the Big 12 lost OU, TV broadcasters would not prop up the next TV deal given what is left. The conference could just stay small and improve its strength of schedule by playing more P5 schools or form another conference and except the payout

(02-06-2017 12:05 AM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 05:33 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 05:15 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 04:19 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 03:56 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]Considering the neglect that has gone on at that school, I would vote to kick them out. That's just my opinion though. Not that I think they'll do that...

With 7 votes you could do this:

SEC takes Oklahoma and Oklahoma State

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Houston

ACC takes West Virginia and Notre Dame

The important thing is that no matter how the division occurs 7 is much more doable and without Baylor even 9 is not out of the realm of possibility.

True. Things get a lot easier.

At that, if I were one of the Big 12 officials and I could guarantee 9, I would take that option yesterday.

Maybe something like this...

SEC takes Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Tulane

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Iowa State

ACC takes Notre Dame and West Virginia

Or maybe something a bit more economical:
SEC: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
PAC: Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U., Kansas State
Big 10: Kansas, Iowa State
ACC: West Virginia and Notre Dame joins in full.

Now we have the 4 x 16. Big 10 gets Kansas and the price is Iowa State. SEC gets Oklahoma and the price is O.S.U. The PAC gets Texas, Texas Tech, and T.C.U., and the price is Kansas State. The ACC gets N.D. to join in full and the price is W.V.U..

That's 64 and we're done.

That said, I think it will be necessary to take 4 Big 12 schools to land OU and UT. It's going to be fascinating to see how this situation with Baylor unfolds.

It would have to be Tech and OSU to land UT and OU. That could still be profitable. Just need to adjust the divisions and scheduling rules. If we do have only 4 conferences, having conference semifinals would form a defacto 16 team playoff.

Assuming the Big 12 lost OU, TV broadcasters would not prop up the next TV deal given what is left. The conference could just stay small and improve its strength of schedule by playing more P5 schools or form another conference and except the payout

I think the best approach for 18 is simply to have three divisions of 6. Play 5 divisional games and rotate 2 games each from the other divisions. That's 9 conference games. If you need to play an annual game against a rival you simply schedule them as an OOC game when they aren't in the rotation.

The three divisions champs and the school with the best record among the non division winners play it off. Play the first round at a regional location and the finals at a rotation of sites: Dallas, Atlanta, Nashville, Tampa for instance.

The SEC network has three channels now. Dedicate one to each division and have common news and special interest programs. I think it's a winner all the way around.

Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech

Alabama, Auburn, L.S.U., Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

The highest seed divisional champ gets the wild card unless it is from their division.

It's simple, regional, fan friendly, restores rivalries, and is a heckuva lineup.

(02-06-2017 12:16 AM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-06-2017 12:05 AM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 05:33 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 05:15 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-05-2017 04:19 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]The important thing is that no matter how the division occurs 7 is much more doable and without Baylor even 9 is not out of the realm of possibility.

True. Things get a lot easier.

At that, if I were one of the Big 12 officials and I could guarantee 9, I would take that option yesterday.

Maybe something like this...

SEC takes Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Tulane

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Iowa State

ACC takes Notre Dame and West Virginia

Or maybe something a bit more economical:
SEC: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
PAC: Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U., Kansas State
Big 10: Kansas, Iowa State
ACC: West Virginia and Notre Dame joins in full.

Now we have the 4 x 16. Big 10 gets Kansas and the price is Iowa State. SEC gets Oklahoma and the price is O.S.U. The PAC gets Texas, Texas Tech, and T.C.U., and the price is Kansas State. The ACC gets N.D. to join in full and the price is W.V.U..

That's 64 and we're done.

That said, I think it will be necessary to take 4 Big 12 schools to land OU and UT. It's going to be fascinating to see how this situation with Baylor unfolds.

It would have to be Tech and OSU to land UT and OU. That could still be profitable. Just need to adjust the divisions and scheduling rules. If we do have only 4 conferences, having conference semifinals would form a defacto 16 team playoff.

Assuming the Big 12 lost OU, TV broadcasters would not prop up the next TV deal given what is left. The conference could just stay small and improve its strength of schedule by playing more P5 schools or form another conference and except the payout

I think the best approach for 18 is simply to have three divisions of 6. Play 5 divisional games and rotate 2 games each from the other divisions. That's 9 conference games. If you need to play an annual game against a rival you simply schedule them as an OOC game when they aren't in the rotation.

The three divisions champs and the school with the best record among the non division winners play it off. Play the first round at a regional location and the finals at a rotation of sites: Dallas, Atlanta, Nashville, Tampa for instance.

The SEC network has three channels now. Dedicate one to each division and have common news and special interest programs. I think it's a winner all the way around.

Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech

Alabama, Auburn, L.S.U., Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

The highest seed divisional champ gets the wild card unless it is from their division.

It's simple, regional, fan friendly, restores rivalries, and is a heckuva lineup.

That could work. LHN becomes the new Southwest Division Channel. Would be nice to drop an OSU or Tech for Kansas or something.

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(02-05-2017 05:15 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]True. Things get a lot easier.

At that, if I were one of the Big 12 officials and I could guarantee 9, I would take that option yesterday.

Maybe something like this...

SEC takes Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Tulane

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

PAC takes Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, and Iowa State

ACC takes Notre Dame and West Virginia

Or maybe something a bit more economical:
SEC: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
PAC: Texas, Texas Tech, T.C.U., Kansas State
Big 10: Kansas, Iowa State
ACC: West Virginia and Notre Dame joins in full.

Now we have the 4 x 16. Big 10 gets Kansas and the price is Iowa State. SEC gets Oklahoma and the price is O.S.U. The PAC gets Texas, Texas Tech, and T.C.U., and the price is Kansas State. The ACC gets N.D. to join in full and the price is W.V.U..

That's 64 and we're done.

That said, I think it will be necessary to take 4 Big 12 schools to land OU and UT. It's going to be fascinating to see how this situation with Baylor unfolds.

It would have to be Tech and OSU to land UT and OU. That could still be profitable. Just need to adjust the divisions and scheduling rules. If we do have only 4 conferences, having conference semifinals would form a defacto 16 team playoff.

Assuming the Big 12 lost OU, TV broadcasters would not prop up the next TV deal given what is left. The conference could just stay small and improve its strength of schedule by playing more P5 schools or form another conference and except the payout

I think the best approach for 18 is simply to have three divisions of 6. Play 5 divisional games and rotate 2 games each from the other divisions. That's 9 conference games. If you need to play an annual game against a rival you simply schedule them as an OOC game when they aren't in the rotation.

The three divisions champs and the school with the best record among the non division winners play it off. Play the first round at a regional location and the finals at a rotation of sites: Dallas, Atlanta, Nashville, Tampa for instance.

The SEC network has three channels now. Dedicate one to each division and have common news and special interest programs. I think it's a winner all the way around.

Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech

Alabama, Auburn, L.S.U., Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

The highest seed divisional champ gets the wild card unless it is from their division.

It's simple, regional, fan friendly, restores rivalries, and is a heckuva lineup.

That could work. LHN becomes the new Southwest Division Channel. Would be nice to drop an OSU or Tech for Kansas or something.

Yep. Perhaps we could just go with West, Central and East for the division names. I would rather have Kansas too, but I would think UT & OU would have some say there. If however the PAC did wish to take Tech and T.C.U. to get a presence in Texas then perhaps Kansas could be considered.

Texahoma is probably the best deal we can realistically get.

If it takes only 7 then...

SEC takes Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State

B1G takes Kansas and UConn

ACC takes Notre Dame and West Virginia

PAC takes TCU and Houston

That's the only way I see that working out. The B1G won't take Iowa State just to make the moves for the other leagues work. This assumes as well that the PAC would take Houston.

If it takes 9 and we're getting Texahoma then we probably have to take 6 to make it work.