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Interesting point comparing Memphis with our most likely new bitter rival for next year.
BS. Memphis has a RPI of 19 and has won the regular season of CUSA decidedly. No regular season champ has ever been left out. Last night was there first true road loss and broke a 17 game winning streak. They have wins against Tennessee who is finishing strong, Harvard, Northern Iowa and two against USM. Their losses are to VCU, Minnesota, Louisville and Xavier on the road.

They won't have a good seed, but they definitely belong.

As far as the comparison, middle Tennessee belongs too.
Interesting that the author mentions UCF as one of MTSU's best wins, but ignores the fact that Memphis also beat them. His only argument of merit is that ESPN had Memphis overseeded as a 5, but there could have been extenuating circumstances that pushed them up higher.

His argument shouldn't be against Memphis, it should be for MTSU.
Memphis should be a lock. I have them in our top 10 and will stay there even with the loss to X. I throw the BS flag as well.

MTSU and Southern Miss should be in as well. All deserve to go over the Turds.
This comparison is ridiculous. Memphis 2-3 against the top 50 and 7-1 against 51-100. MTSU is 0-3 and 2-0 against those same groups. Middle plays in a much weaker conference, and has a bad loss to Arkansas State. The RPI is a factor with the Selection Committee, but it isn't the only tool used. These are two very different teams, and they should be seeded that way.

For what it's worth, I don't believe Memphis is a to ten team, or anywhere around that area. Maybe in the 20-25 range. I do believe they deserve an at-large.
I don't believe Middle Tennessee deserves to be a tournament team if they don't win their conference tournament because they would take an RPI hit, and don't have much to offer on the resume.
Southern Miss had better find a way to beat Memphis or win the conference tournament. 3 losses to Memphis, and basically nothing on the resume would/should not be enough to get in the tournament.
Memphis always looks so much bigger, faster, stronger, and generally more athletic when playing CUSA opponents. Last night they looked just the opposite. The were smaller and less athletic and seemed lost when the things they do in CUSA were not working. They worked themselves back into the game and even had the lead late after being down by double-digits but couldn't finish. I think its more a matter of them not being challenged consistently by similar teams rather than them being outclassed last night.
The article accomplished what it's intent was, and that was to get traffic.

I read the article just to be able to speak with knowledge, and I say, this Yahoo blooger, is a yahoo.

He makes the argument to fit his point, you know like looking for a problem to fit his solution, thats the art of blogging.

Believe me, knowledgable basketball people who teams are going to make the turny, who know more about basketball then me or this writer, will not want to see these teams on their side of the bracket come turny time.
Southern Miss looks like a top NIT team to me.
Look at us defending Memphis. 03-lmfao
(02-27-2013 02:09 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]Look at us defending Memphis. 03-lmfao

I'd defend Bama too if an article this stupid was written about them. I can look at things objectively, even if a hate a certain team/program.
+1.

Memphis clearly is a deserving at large team, even if they don't win the CUSA tournament, which I expect them to do anyway. Calling them a bubble team is idiotic.
It is interesting because here in Nashville their is talk of who is the best team in Tennessee. The candidates are Memphis, Belmont, and MTSU. Just to keep the hillbillies happy they currently include UTK. All three are good and deserve a shot in the tournament over the 6 - 8 teams of the Big East and Big Ten (the last two from Big Ten currently have losing conference records).
I can listen to an argument regarding the Big East teams getting in. I can't listen to any argument against Minnesota or Illinois.(I'm assuming these are the two you are talking about)

Minnesota has the #1 SOS in the country and an RPI in the top 15. They have wins over Memphis, Michigan State, Wisconsin, and Indiana. They also have 12 total wins in the top 100.

Illinois has the number 7 SOS. They have wins over Butler, @Gonzaga, OSU, Indiana, and Minnesota. They do have 2 shaky losses, but 4 top 20 wins are more than enough to offset those.
My point is I would rather see a team that dominated their conference and won games our of conference than teams that could not finish .500 in their own conference. I have always had a problem with this.
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