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Quote:The new rules allow recruiters unlimited contact with prospects via phone call and text message, and they eliminate the "dead period," a two-week stretch in December and/or January in which face-to-face contact between a coach and a recruit isn't allowed. One phone call to a prospect per week is allowed, and texting is off limits. Basically, the dead period gives coaches and players alike a much needed break from the non-stop recruiting process.

In addition to the deregulation of phone calls and text messages and the elimination of off-time, the new rules get rid of restrictions on the amount of printed materials a school can send a prospect. Perhaps the biggest changes allow schools to hire recruiters that aren't on the regular coaching staff and eliminate restrictions on the number of off-campus recruiters at any given time. For big, money-making programs that already have a leg up on their smaller counterparts, the last two changes listed given them an even bigger leg up.

The problem with having to use coaches as recruiters is that they have to take time off from recruiting to actually coach. But if a school has enough money to hire an entirely separate recruiting staff, which some schools do, that gives it a huge advantage over a school that can't afford the extra payroll.

Emmert and his fellow proponents of the changes may view them as a streamlining of the rule book, but many see them as something else entirely: the NCAA waived the white flag on trying to enforce its current rules.

"I was a bit surprised," Tom Lemming, CBS Sports Network national recruiting expert, told Matt Murschel of the Orlando Sentinel. "It's almost like the NCAA has given up in trying to monitor all the guys."

http://www.sbnation.com/2013/1/25/391603...es-changes
Add to that the Miami investigation debacle which, essentially, kills the investigative arm of the NCAA and you have a system that is about to get even more out of control. And, if you believe some who say they had to know the Miami investigation was tainted and what it would mean, with the NCAA's blessing...
This is a telling sentence: "The problem with having to use coaches as recruiters is that they have to take time off from recruiting to actually coach."

Isn't it supposed to be the other way around?
I thought they gave up back when they decided that to avoid penalties all a player had to do was maintain plausible deniability.

'I'm 18 and I have no idea what my crazy _______ [dad, mom, aunt, uncle, cousin] took from boosters.'

So long as there is a family patsy it's a free for all.
I read an article today about Finebaum speaking at the Gardendale Civic Center. When you read the article, you sense very heavily that he is way way too attached to a certain program. In being attached, he certainly is not able to give an unbiased opinion on the school or the dealings at the school. He has lost everything that made him a pretty darn good writer.

The same thing kind of is happening to the NCAA in this article.

The NCAA has decided that enforcing the rules requires too many resources, so instead they should sit back and reap the $$$'s that are coming in instead. Any damage they would inflict on the member institutions & conferences would take away from the $$$'s.

However, as in any society, organization, etc. when you don't have any rules to go by or if the rules aren't enforcement you have some who abuse the system.

This can't be good.
Remember that all of the NCAA "investigations" are based on voluntary contributions of evidence since they have no power to require anyone to tell them anything, true or not. They are entirely dependent on some coach, player, convicted felon or other unhappy participant to voluntarily tell them what is going on. If no one breaks through the wall of silence, the NCAA is totally confounded. In the face of advancing social media technology, they find that trying to keep track of it all with their legal limitations is in reality, useless. Too many parties with too many ways to get around the system for them to be effective in their enforcement of too many rules. There is always the possibility of "the baby getting thrown out with the bath water".
Getting rid on some of the silly rules are a good thing. Did you know there is or was a rule as to how many color pages a media guide can have. Enforce the big stuff, and let the little stuff go.
Quote:In addition to the deregulation of phone calls and text messages and the elimination of off-time, the new rules get rid of restrictions on the amount of printed materials a school can send a prospect.

Which Cartel school will be the first to assert, "well, cash is printed material."

Wait, we all know the answer to that.
They were not following the rules any way. Nothing is really changing other than they won't get their hand slapped now. This stuff is chicken feed compared to what is going on. Over the past few years it has already been like the wild wild west in this part of the country. The only ones that don't know this are the ones with their heads buried in the sand, the mindless zealots of the cults they follow, and the ones covering up for these schools. Cash is very difficult to trace.
The next threat that any of the Cartel schools face - outside of UNC-CH drawing the ire of their accreditation body...and if they don't, I don't know what else would - will be Messrs. Selig, Stern, and Goodell. They will arrive on horses of red, white, and blue...and in their wake will come a rider cloaked in black on a pale horse. The name of this rider will be IRS, and he will sow destruction in his path.


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(01-26-2013 06:53 PM)blazr Wrote: [ -> ]The next threat that any of the Cartel schools face - outside of UNC-CH drawing the ire of their accreditation body...and if they don't, I don't know what else would - will be Messrs. Selig, Stern, and Goodell. They will arrive on horses of red, white, and blue...and in their wake will come a rider cloaked in black on a pale horse. The name of this rider will be IRS, and he will sow destruction in his path.


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That would truly be a Revelation!
(01-25-2013 09:23 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]Getting rid on some of the silly rules are a good thing. Did you know there is or was a rule as to how many color pages a media guide can have. Enforce the big stuff, and let the little stuff go.

That is because some of the big schools were abusing it. If your media guide is one long slick advertisement for the program, with glossy action pictures of all the players, your program looks better. Now the recruit will look at it and envision a full page glossy color picture of him in an Enormous State University jersey making the tackle. I think it was Oklahoma that was abusing it, their media guide had doubled in size and was full of color photos.

The $$$ schools will very shortly have PR/advertising firms doing theirs, while ours will continue to be written and designed by our SID.

It leveled the playing field in marketing to the recruits and the public. Like other measures to attempt to do that, its going away.
(01-27-2013 07:59 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-25-2013 09:23 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]Getting rid on some of the silly rules are a good thing. Did you know there is or was a rule as to how many color pages a media guide can have. Enforce the big stuff, and let the little stuff go.

That is because some of the big schools were abusing it. If your media guide is one long slick advertisement for the program, with glossy action pictures of all the players, your program looks better. Now the recruit will look at it and envision a full page glossy color picture of him in an Enormous State University jersey making the tackle. I think it was Oklahoma that was abusing it, their media guide had doubled in size and was full of color photos.

The $$$ schools will very shortly have PR/advertising firms doing theirs, while ours will continue to be written and designed by our SID.

It leveled the playing field in marketing to the recruits and the public. Like other measures to attempt to do that, its going away.

For the record, I believe it was Lousiville and their almost 400 page, full-color hard-bound "media guide" that caught the NCAA's attention and brought about the knee-jerk reaction.

Now if we can just get UAB to resume printing one at all.
On the topic of recruiting, the NCAA has been so outmaneuvered for so long it almost doesn't matter what they attempt, but this is mind-boggling. The most dangerous development I've seen in recruiting started in men's basketball and has been migrating to football. It's the existence of de-facto agents with "stables" of high-school kids with whom they have no written agreement but everyone knows that the path to LOIs from those kids goes through these AAU coaches/friends of the family/"Uncles"/etc. Then again, making things wide open like this does do more to ensure that coaches will NOT be paying players...some private citizen may be paying a large amount of money to some grown person they never met before, but that's completely unrelated.

Meanwhile, can someone explain the difference between slave traders of old who got "finder's fees" for recruiting and delivering fit, capable young talent to work for little or nothing and what recruiting has devolved into now? Oh wait, the talent gets paid an education now. Sorry, completely different...carry on.
(01-27-2013 10:42 PM)blazr Wrote: [ -> ]On the topic of recruiting, the NCAA has been so outmaneuvered for so long it almost doesn't matter what they attempt, but this is mind-boggling. The most dangerous development I've seen in recruiting started in men's basketball and has been migrating to football. It's the existence of de-facto agents with "stables" of high-school kids with whom they have no written agreement but everyone knows that the path to LOIs from those kids goes through these AAU coaches/friends of the family/"Uncles"/etc. Then again, making things wide open like this does do more to ensure that coaches will NOT be paying players...some private citizen may be paying a large amount of money to some grown person they never met before, but that's completely unrelated.

Meanwhile, can someone explain the difference between slave traders of old who got "finder's fees" for recruiting and delivering fit, capable young talent to work for little or nothing and what recruiting has devolved into now? Oh wait, the talent gets paid an education now. Sorry, completely different...carry on.

The NCAA has no power to enforce any of its rules until an athlete becomes a student at a member school. Now if a member school gets mixed up in dealings such as you describe, they can punish the offending school and its programs, but they have no power I know of over such entities as the AAU coaches or "family" unless the school is involved. If Cam Newton had gone to MS State, the NCAA might have gone in. Since they had no provable connect between those folks and AU, they could not make a case. Cash always talks, but sometimes only in whispers.

In the past, the NCAA has tried to keep the field level between the Enormous State Universities/ Enormous Private Universities and the less endowed schools but since the creation of the BCS, this has been less and less something they can care about. Hence, the new rules that give the ESU/EPU so much of the advantages that great wealth can buy. Scarbinsky's column in the Sunday NEWS illustrates the way the wealth can make a difference.
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