http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...aky-future
Quote:CBSSports.com reported last week that a Big East contract could be worth as little as $60 million per year. Industry sources are saying now that number could be as low as $40 million per year. If that's the case, that's an average of $1.85 million per year per school. Seventy percent of that number would be football revenue, or $1.29 million. The Mountain West currently pays between $2 million-$3 million per year to its schools, according to sources.
Boise already gets 2-3 million a year. What is the incentive to leave now?
Why should SDSU leave? Why should they leave, take a pay cut, then spend more on travel? Not to mention basketball will go from playing a MWC schedule to Cal St Northridges of the world.
That pot of gold everybody thought at the end of the rainbow is simply not there. Just a big ass pissed off ugly leprechaun.
The big question is which part of it will implode first?
Will Boise & SDSU decide to bolt?
Will the non-football schools bolt first?
Will Cincy & UConn or even Temple bolt?
The non-football schools have no reason to leave prior to the end of basketball season and possibly the end of the school year.
There is that July date however that is a line in the sand.
I would guess that come next June, the non-football schools have moved on to a better deal or kicked out the football schools.
Merry Christmas!
So can we, C-USA, kick out the new invites and take back all the schools that bolted??? Would really like to have Memphis and ECU back in our camp.
(12-12-2012 08:18 PM)Blazerstadium Wrote: [ -> ]So can we, C-USA, kick out the new invites and take back all the schools that bolted??? Would really like to have Memphis and ECU back in our camp.
memphis yes no way on ecu. just like tcu the pushed for adding members close to them then took off and their fans became more tiresome than louisville fans.
It would not work that way.
CUSA will not kick out any new teams.
One option would be to include the teams that left by bringing them back.
However, you have the initial exit fees as well as re-entry fees to work through.
Some of the western teams in CUSA could move to the MWC to even things out.
Another option would be for the kicked out Big East football schools to form a new league by themselves.
The value of that league though would be even less than the value as it is in the existing Big East.
Not to mention, automatic bids in basketball, bowl tie-ins in football, etc.
I think you will eventually see what is left of the Big East (After the ACC guts them and the basketball schools run off to do their own thing) being the Eastern leg of an alliance that includes C-USA and the MWC. One model projected 40 teams being involved. Before anyone freaks out you would play within your division. UAB would not have to go to SDSU and play or SDSU would not have to go play at FIU. The champion of all this gets a playoff invite when it goes to 8 - 16 teams.
Remember BB has been working closely with the MWC commish and I do think you could see UTEP and maybe UTSA slide over and this thing get more geographically aligned in nice neat divisions.
Amazing, this article is no where to be found on empty.org.
I know why C*USA added when we did, but it may have been a little premature to take the F_U twins and Charlotte.
No way the departing teams come back. Pride won't allow it. Besides, while they are not getting what they thought, I suspect they are getting more than they would in The new CUSA
(12-12-2012 10:01 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]No way the departing teams come back. Pride won't allow it. Besides, while they are not getting what they thought, I suspect they are getting more than they would in The new CUSA
Which only hurts UAB.
(12-12-2012 10:01 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote: [ -> ]No way the departing teams come back. Pride won't allow it. Besides, while they are not getting what they thought, I suspect they are getting more than they would in The new CUSA
The new CUSA contract will probably be on par or pretty close with the BE agreement if the $40M is correct. However, with the increased BE travel costs, including for non-revenue sports, the difference could very well be in CUSA's favor.
I think some of the teams would return if the BE implodes. IF BE FB forms a new conference there is a mandatory waiting period for "recognition". Unless that is waived they would be locked out of AQ bowl and NCAA automatic qualifying for a period of time and, again travel costs could be a problem.
Of course, this ESPN pushing against the BE because the BE spurned their offer. A woman scorned...
If I'm the schools that left C-USA to go to the Big East and it falls apart...I try my best to form a new league and rip whatever quality is left from C-USA and others just to make a new C-USA without Britton Banowsky as Commissioner.
(12-13-2012 07:43 AM)demiveeman Wrote: [ -> ]If I'm the schools that left C-USA to go to the Big East and it falls apart...I try my best to form a new league and rip whatever quality is left from C-USA and others just to make a new C-USA without Britton Banowsky as Commissioner.
This. Don't let pride get in the way of what has the potential to be a solid 2nd tier conference. Take what's leftover of the Big East football schools, and add in UAB, Southern Miss, Marshall, Tulsa, Rice, UTEP(assuming none of these three go to the MWC) and then probably take ODU, Charlotte, MTSU, and La Tech, and you have a solid core.
The NCAA is not going to give a new league an auto bid. Not happening. They will end up being their own division in an alliance when it all falls down.
The WAC still has autobids and a waiver. It would be a stupid name for an east coast conference, though.
(12-13-2012 09:06 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote: [ -> ]The NCAA is not going to give a new league an auto bid. Not happening. They will end up being their own division in an alliance when it all falls down.
The auto-bid is a joke anyway. The motivation was football, and there's no such thing as an AQ anymore.
For basketball? Ehh. They can fight for an at-large bid.
They made the jump, now they deal with the consequences. I'm not sold there will even be an alliance anymore. Especially if Boise goes back to the MWC after this crap hits the fan. If they somehow convinced Louisiana Tech to come to the MWC instead of C-USA, they'd almost be considered part of the "Big 6".
(12-13-2012 09:09 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]The WAC still has autobids and a waiver. It would be a stupid name for an east coast conference, though.
I suppose they could rename the league, but how would the "new" BB schools fit in with the WAC current BB teams(separate division)? Also, New Mexico State and Idaho who are still members.
(12-13-2012 09:06 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote: [ -> ]The NCAA is not going to give a new league an auto bid. Not happening. They will end up being their own division in an alliance when it all falls down.
THAT.
I am more convinced than ever there will be an alliance. The commissioners have been discussing it ongoing for over a year. They just are not blabbing it to the media.
At first, I liked the alliance idea. If each league had 8 teams, and you criss crossed in basketball and just a couple times a year in football, it made sense. Now that we have 800 teams in each conference, it doesn't make as much sense. We wouldn't get the benefit of playing UNLV/UNM/etc. in basketball, and the only football game that would matter would be a championship of the two leagues. I wish the Big East and MWC would just form two large conferences that made geographical sense at this point. If you want to play a football championship game, by all means do so. If you want some sort of MWC/Big East Challenge, do it.(I still think it would make the most sense to do these games as tournaments... take 1-3 in the prior season and have them play a round robin in location a, then take 4-6 and have them play in location b, etc. That would at least give the conferences some decent games against one another and limit travel) But much past that, I don't see anything making a whole lot of sense.