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This will be awesome. Copa America will have US, Mexico & 4 other CONCACAF nations joining for 2016 tournament. And, it will be held in the good old U-S-of-A.

That's a big deal. I wonder if there is a push to combine CONCACAF and CONMEBOL?

BTW, this isnt a done deal yet. CONCACAF hasnt signed off yet.

As far as combing CONCACAF and COMEBOL, it will never happen. You could possibly move some teams over but the Panamas and Costa Ricas and Jamiacas of the world will never go along with it because they would never qualify for the WC out of COMEBOL.

If this is successful (and it will be), then there could be a push to combine Copa America and the Gold Cup and make it the same summer as the Euros. Of course, it would need to be hosted in the US each time to achieve max profits.

CONCACAF will sign-off, just have to decide how much of a cut they want first.

(10-25-2012 02:29 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: [ -> ]BTW, this isnt a done deal yet. CONCACAF hasnt signed off yet.

As far as combing CONCACAF and COMEBOL, it will never happen. You could possibly move some teams over but the Panamas and Costa Ricas and Jamiacas of the world will never go along with it because they would never qualify for the WC out of COMEBOL.

For that matter, the US might have trouble with that too

That is true, but I will contend that qualifying from CONCACAF is MUCH harder than most of the world realizes it.

(10-25-2012 04:48 PM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]That is true, but I will contend that qualifying from CONCACAF is MUCH harder than most of the world realizes it.

If they think it is a complete joke and the reality is that it is very easy, I would agree with you. We have made it for 20 years without any trouble even though we have had some teams that were not up to our own standards in that time period.

(10-25-2012 06:09 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 04:48 PM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]That is true, but I will contend that qualifying from CONCACAF is MUCH harder than most of the world realizes it.

If they think it is a complete joke and the reality is that it is very easy, I would agree with you. We have made it for 20 years without any trouble even though we have had some teams that were not up to our own standards in that time period.

Can't count '94 since the US did not have to go through qualifying. CONCACAF is much harder than most realize. Other than the US and Mexico there are other teams that are tough to beat such as: Jamaica, Costa Rica, Honduras, Panama. Is it like qualifying in Europe no, but it is harder than those in Europe realize.

(10-25-2012 06:09 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 04:48 PM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]That is true, but I will contend that qualifying from CONCACAF is MUCH harder than most of the world realizes it.

If they think it is a complete joke and the reality is that it is very easy, I would agree with you. We have made it for 20 years without any trouble even though we have had some teams that were not up to our own standards in that time period.

We were 20 minutes away from not qualifying in 2002. We were very lucky to get to Korea.

(10-25-2012 02:36 PM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]If this is successful (and it will be), then there could be a push to combine Copa America and the Gold Cup and make it the same summer as the Euros. Of course, it would need to be hosted in the US each time to achieve max profits.

CONCACAF will sign-off, just have to decide how much of a cut they want first.

OK, that stops short of my suggestion, and is probably the best choice. It would add more prestige to the Copa America/Gold Cup if we combined the two permanently. I like it. And I think it could be hosted very well by Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico, in addition to the USA.

(10-25-2012 08:47 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 06:09 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 04:48 PM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]That is true, but I will contend that qualifying from CONCACAF is MUCH harder than most of the world realizes it.

If they think it is a complete joke and the reality is that it is very easy, I would agree with you. We have made it for 20 years without any trouble even though we have had some teams that were not up to our own standards in that time period.

We were 20 minutes away from not qualifying in 2002. We were very lucky to get to Korea.

I remember that very well. Joe-Max Moore breaks down the defense, then finds Clint Mathis who buries a shot from the top of the box.

(10-26-2012 08:30 AM)PlainTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 02:36 PM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]If this is successful (and it will be), then there could be a push to combine Copa America and the Gold Cup and make it the same summer as the Euros. Of course, it would need to be hosted in the US each time to achieve max profits.

CONCACAF will sign-off, just have to decide how much of a cut they want first.

OK, that stops short of my suggestion, and is probably the best choice. It would add more prestige to the Copa America/Gold Cup if we combined the two permanently. I like it. And I think it could be hosted very well by Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico, in addition to the USA.

FIFA would force each confederation to have their own championship at some point in each cycle.

(10-26-2012 09:13 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2012 08:30 AM)PlainTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 02:36 PM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]If this is successful (and it will be), then there could be a push to combine Copa America and the Gold Cup and make it the same summer as the Euros. Of course, it would need to be hosted in the US each time to achieve max profits.

CONCACAF will sign-off, just have to decide how much of a cut they want first.

OK, that stops short of my suggestion, and is probably the best choice. It would add more prestige to the Copa America/Gold Cup if we combined the two permanently. I like it. And I think it could be hosted very well by Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico, in addition to the USA.

FIFA would force each confederation to have their own championship at some point in each cycle.

For the Confederations Cup, right?

(10-26-2012 01:30 PM)PlainTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2012 09:13 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2012 08:30 AM)PlainTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 02:36 PM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]If this is successful (and it will be), then there could be a push to combine Copa America and the Gold Cup and make it the same summer as the Euros. Of course, it would need to be hosted in the US each time to achieve max profits.

CONCACAF will sign-off, just have to decide how much of a cut they want first.

OK, that stops short of my suggestion, and is probably the best choice. It would add more prestige to the Copa America/Gold Cup if we combined the two permanently. I like it. And I think it could be hosted very well by Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico, in addition to the USA.

FIFA would force each confederation to have their own championship at some point in each cycle.

For the Confederations Cup, right?

for one.

(10-26-2012 08:30 AM)PlainTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 02:36 PM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]If this is successful (and it will be), then there could be a push to combine Copa America and the Gold Cup and make it the same summer as the Euros. Of course, it would need to be hosted in the US each time to achieve max profits.

CONCACAF will sign-off, just have to decide how much of a cut they want first.

OK, that stops short of my suggestion, and is probably the best choice. It would add more prestige to the Copa America/Gold Cup if we combined the two permanently. I like it. And I think it could be hosted very well by Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico, in addition to the USA.

I don't think CONMEBOL would every sign off on this, How much pride that organization has. The embarassment if it team from CONCACAF won the combined competition is why it will not happen.

(12-02-2012 11:56 AM)BARTLETTTIGER Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2012 08:30 AM)PlainTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 02:36 PM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]If this is successful (and it will be), then there could be a push to combine Copa America and the Gold Cup and make it the same summer as the Euros. Of course, it would need to be hosted in the US each time to achieve max profits.

CONCACAF will sign-off, just have to decide how much of a cut they want first.

OK, that stops short of my suggestion, and is probably the best choice. It would add more prestige to the Copa America/Gold Cup if we combined the two permanently. I like it. And I think it could be hosted very well by Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico, in addition to the USA.

I don't think CONMEBOL would every sign off on this, How much pride that organization has. The embarassment if it team from CONCACAF won the combined competition is why it will not happen.

???? I dont understand that. CONCACAF teams have participated in the Copa America 15 times with 2 finals appearances. Yet they still keep inviting CONCACAF teams.

(12-02-2012 04:52 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-02-2012 11:56 AM)BARTLETTTIGER Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2012 08:30 AM)PlainTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 02:36 PM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]If this is successful (and it will be), then there could be a push to combine Copa America and the Gold Cup and make it the same summer as the Euros. Of course, it would need to be hosted in the US each time to achieve max profits.

CONCACAF will sign-off, just have to decide how much of a cut they want first.

OK, that stops short of my suggestion, and is probably the best choice. It would add more prestige to the Copa America/Gold Cup if we combined the two permanently. I like it. And I think it could be hosted very well by Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico, in addition to the USA.

I don't think CONMEBOL would every sign off on this, How much pride that organization has. The embarassment if it team from CONCACAF won the combined competition is why it will not happen.

???? I dont understand that. CONCACAF teams have participated in the Copa America 15 times with 2 finals appearances. Yet they still keep inviting CONCACAF teams.

I don't think that Gold Cup and Copa America would ever combine to make it into one competition. I think both organizations would not want a 24 four team tournament, a mini World Cup. Their are too many egos in those organizations.

(10-26-2012 08:32 AM)PlainTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 08:47 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 06:09 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 04:48 PM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]That is true, but I will contend that qualifying from CONCACAF is MUCH harder than most of the world realizes it.

If they think it is a complete joke and the reality is that it is very easy, I would agree with you. We have made it for 20 years without any trouble even though we have had some teams that were not up to our own standards in that time period.

We were 20 minutes away from not qualifying in 2002. We were very lucky to get to Korea.

I remember that very well. Joe-Max Moore breaks down the defense, then finds Clint Mathis who buries a shot from the top of the box.

probably thinking of another game. We needed a win to guarantee a spot. We drew at T&T and Honduras or Guatemala lost that day. If they would have won, we wouldn't have qualified.

(12-04-2012 10:49 PM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2012 08:32 AM)PlainTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 08:47 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 06:09 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 04:48 PM)TigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]That is true, but I will contend that qualifying from CONCACAF is MUCH harder than most of the world realizes it.

If they think it is a complete joke and the reality is that it is very easy, I would agree with you. We have made it for 20 years without any trouble even though we have had some teams that were not up to our own standards in that time period.

We were 20 minutes away from not qualifying in 2002. We were very lucky to get to Korea.

I remember that very well. Joe-Max Moore breaks down the defense, then finds Clint Mathis who buries a shot from the top of the box.

probably thinking of another game. We needed a win to guarantee a spot. We drew at T&T and Honduras or Guatemala lost that day. If they would have won, we wouldn't have qualified.

I was thinking of the semifinal round. From Wiki...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_FIFA_W...ls#Group_3

If we had not won that last match at Barbados, we would not have advanced to the final round of CONCACAF qualification. And we didn't score until the 63rd minute.

(12-07-2012 09:20 AM)PlainTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-04-2012 10:49 PM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-26-2012 08:32 AM)PlainTiger Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 08:47 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-25-2012 06:09 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote: [ -> ]If they think it is a complete joke and the reality is that it is very easy, I would agree with you. We have made it for 20 years without any trouble even though we have had some teams that were not up to our own standards in that time period.

We were 20 minutes away from not qualifying in 2002. We were very lucky to get to Korea.

I remember that very well. Joe-Max Moore breaks down the defense, then finds Clint Mathis who buries a shot from the top of the box.

probably thinking of another game. We needed a win to guarantee a spot. We drew at T&T and Honduras or Guatemala lost that day. If they would have won, we wouldn't have qualified.

I was thinking of the semifinal round. From Wiki...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_FIFA_W...ls#Group_3

If we had not won that last match at Barbados, we would not have advanced to the final round of CONCACAF qualification. And we didn't score until the 63rd minute.

yup. Man that game sucked. We kept pouring it on and just couldnt get the ball in the net.