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Anyone know whether Lapray has 1 or 2 years of eligibility? He was not on Pepperdine's roster last year.
(04-18-2017 01:40 PM)mrbig Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone know whether Lapray has 1 or 2 years of eligibility? He was not on Pepperdine's roster last year.

He wasn't on Pepperdine's roster, but in the video that he posted it appeared he was in Pepperdine's locker room, so I don't think he was fully separated from the team. But yes, theoretically he should be able to have two more years of eligibility.
With 2 grad transfers coming in, I'm becoming increasingly excited about 2017-18. Other than Van Green, Rhoades was never able to bring in a grad transfer. Kudos to Pera and staff for getting 2 of them (at least) during a year when Rice absolutely needed some experienced players on the roster. This really helps balance recruiting classes and injects some immediately experience into the rotation.

Obviously the team is still less talented than if everyone had returned. But its easier to imagine Rice getting toward 20 wins again with the grad transfers.
(04-18-2017 01:09 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: [ -> ]I heard that we had a VERY intriguing transfer on campus yesterday, but he would have to sit out a year if he does come.

I have no idea who you are talking about, though I like to hear this. The only guy that I can twitter-link to Rice who fits this description is AJ Turner, who I mentioned in a post yesterday (but again, I have zero idea if he is interested in Rice or if this is who you are talking about). Pure, unadulterated, idle specualation.

(04-17-2017 09:59 AM)mrbig Wrote: [ -> ]No idea if it means anything, but Coach Kreider started following 6'7" SF A.J. Turner. Coach Pera also follows him, but starting doing so ages ago (probably when Turner was in high school). He is transferring from Boston College after 2 seasons, so would have to sit out a year. Averaged 27 mins/game as a freshman and 30 mins/game as a sophomore. Had offers from Princeton, Stanford, Harvard, Penn, Northwestern, and a bunch of good basketball programs coming out of high school (was a top-200 national recruit). Haven't seen anything else linking him to Rice.
(04-18-2017 03:23 PM)mrbig Wrote: [ -> ]With 2 grad transfers coming in, I'm becoming increasingly excited about 2017-18. Other than Van Green, Rhoades was never able to bring in a grad transfer. Kudos to Pera and staff for getting 2 of them (at least) during a year when Rice absolutely needed some experienced players on the roster. This really helps balance recruiting classes and injects some immediately experience into the rotation.

Obviously the team is still less talented than if everyone had returned. But its easier to imagine Rice getting toward 20 wins again with the grad transfers.

I'm not sure why getting 2 grad transfers who have no contributions at the college level is exciting. We lost 6 of our best 7 players from last year (Evans, Egor, Jackson, Douglas, Quez, Lott).
(04-18-2017 04:20 PM)cr11owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 03:23 PM)mrbig Wrote: [ -> ]With 2 grad transfers coming in, I'm becoming increasingly excited about 2017-18. Other than Van Green, Rhoades was never able to bring in a grad transfer. Kudos to Pera and staff for getting 2 of them (at least) during a year when Rice absolutely needed some experienced players on the roster. This really helps balance recruiting classes and injects some immediately experience into the rotation.

Obviously the team is still less talented than if everyone had returned. But its easier to imagine Rice getting toward 20 wins again with the grad transfers.

I'm not sure why getting 2 grad transfers who have no contributions at the college level is exciting. We lost 6 of our best 7 players from last year (Evans, Egor, Jackson, Douglas, Quez, Lott).

Agree, this is pretty much a disaster. If the team finishes even close to .500, Pera may be the coach of the century. And we probably lose him. This is no knock on Connor or Austin, but all look at the PT relative to the others.

Sigh Damn Crap.
Ako Adams got way more playing time than Meyer. And call me crazy but I think Meyer and Harrison both could be decent players. In fact I think both have NBA potential with a LOT of development. And Robert Martin was perhaps the most heralded recruit among last year's freshmen. The cupboard isn't bare. It's certainly not fully stocked but it's not as gloom and doom as you might think.

Chances are though it will be a transitional year. But maybe the women's basketball team (which should have a very good chance at making the NCAA tournament) will carry the boat in hoops next season.
(04-18-2017 04:44 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Ako Adams got way more playing time than Meyer. And call me crazy but I think Meyer and Harrison both could be decent players. In fact I think both have NBA potential with a LOT of development. And Robert Martin was perhaps the most heralded recruit among last year's freshmen. The cupboard isn't bare. It's certainly not fully stocked but it's not as gloom and doom as you might think.

Chances are though it will be a transitional year. But maybe the women's basketball team (which should have a very good chance at making the NCAA tournament) will carry the boat in hoops next season.

Agreed. I think we have enough to go .500. Anything above .500 will be a surprise. But anything less than 10 wins will be a big disappointment. I think it's a little bit premature to have these discussions though. For example, if we got the Missouri State guy, my expectations would change. We still have 3 open scholarships.
(04-18-2017 04:44 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Ako Adams got way more playing time than Meyer. And call me crazy but I think Meyer and Harrison both could be decent players. In fact I think both have NBA potential with a LOT of development. And Robert Martin was perhaps the most heralded recruit among last year's freshmen. The cupboard isn't bare. It's certainly not fully stocked but it's not as gloom and doom as you might think.

Chances are though it will be a transitional year. But maybe the women's basketball team (which should have a very good chance at making the NCAA tournament) will carry the boat in hoops next season.

I'm not sold yet on Harrison or Martin, but they obviously both have potential and should get the opportunity to develop next season. My problem with Adams is that he played out of control for much of last season. Hoping he matures as a player next year. As for Meyers, I REALLY like him-- both offensively and on the boards. I especially like his footwork and moves in the low post. If he can add 10 - 15 lbs of muscles going into next season, I think he could have a breakout season...and be a 15+ point scorer for us. Connor is going to have to be our outside threat.
(04-18-2017 04:20 PM)cr11owl Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not sure why getting 2 grad transfers who have no contributions at the college level is exciting. We lost 6 of our best 7 players from last year (Evans, Egor, Jackson, Douglas, Quez, Lott).

At this point, I am comparing things to what Rhoades inherited in 2014-15 and looking toward what those additions could mean toward 2017-18.

In 2014-15, Rhoades signed Van Green as a grad transfer and no other grad transfers. This left Rice with only 10 recruited scholarship players at the start of the season, instead of the 13 allowed (Gearhart, Jackson, Guercy, Mency, Drone, Green, Rivers, Pollard, Reed, Davis), plus Peera who was put on scholarship his senior year. But if I recall correctly, Rivers and Davis left the team during the season, meaning Rice essentially played with 8 recruited scholarship players.

With the 4 commits so far, Rice is up to 10 recruited scholarship players, and there is no reason to expect any of them to leave mid-season (they have all either played for Pera or were recruited by Pera, unlike Rivers and Davis, who were both Braun holdovers). So I'm excited that Rice has added depth.

I'm also excited to add the physical maturity that grad transfers bring, as compared to true freshmen.

I'm also excited because Lapray was very highly regarded coming out of high school, but injuries derailed his college career. If he is healthy, he could make a big impact. Similarly, Dylan Jones was a good recruit who also dealt with injury issues. Again, if he's healthy, he could be much better than his college numbers suggest.

Like I said, I'm not expecting Rice to be as good as last season. But I see a lot more talent and experience on the roster than 2014-15, which makes me feel like it will not be a total rebuild. I can see this team finishing in the top half of CUSA if guys are healthy, and that is more optimism than I had a few weeks ago.

My roster comparison(2014-15 compared to 2017-18) from another thread, updated with new players:
(03-30-2017 04:12 PM)mrbig Wrote: [ -> ]My analysis comparing the rosters. Please note that with Gearheart and Jackson, I am considering what we knew about them going into Rhoades's 1st season. Obviously both played great that year. But heading into the year, neither of them had done much of note at Rice. Additionally, I am putting some consideration into how prominent the players were as recruits. The list is in order of minutes played by the guys during Rhoades's 1st year, and I tried to compare them to similar players with similar playing experience.
Cashaw > Gearhart
Lapray > M. Jackson
Adams = Guercy
Mency (Sr) > Mency (Fr)
Meyer > Drone (So)
Harrison > J. Jones
Martin Jr. > Peera
D. Jones = Green
Spence > guy who quit mid-season
Hunter > guy who quit mid-season
(04-17-2017 07:39 PM)cr11owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-17-2017 07:19 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: [ -> ]Evans to VCU.
Kaarlgard once again looks like an idiot by not blocking Evans from transferring there.
Rhoades looks like a **** head for raiding our program of players. Respectable coaches do not do that. Archie Miller isn't raiding Dayton at Indiana. Shaka didn't bring a bunch of VCU guys to Texas.
+1. No respect for that move or the type of players he apparently recruited.

The only conceivable reasons to block Evans from going to VCU are (1) punitive, and (2) to make certain alumni feel better. I think it would have no impact on his or anyone else's decision to leave, and he is probably the only player that would realistically make that move. I see no reason to conclude that Rhodes encouraged Evans or any other player to leave Rice, and I think it is not realistic for anyone to believe that he should tell Evans "no, you can't come to VCU because someone may think it looks bad". It was always very likely that some players would leave Rice when Rhodes decided to move on, whenever that may have been, and under whatever circumstances those were. I wouldn't expect 6 players, but more like 2-3.

That said, there is no reason for me to lose respect for either coach Rhodes or the individual players that decided to move on. They have dedicated a lot of time to becoming very good basketball players and in all honesty, that is the primary if not only reason why we ever knew who any of these kids are. It's reasonable that basketball would play a major role in how and when they decided to move on from Rice. It does not mean that they have character flaws that they chose to do so when their coach decided to move on.
(04-18-2017 05:24 PM)I45owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-17-2017 07:39 PM)cr11owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-17-2017 07:19 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: [ -> ]Evans to VCU.
Kaarlgard once again looks like an idiot by not blocking Evans from transferring there.
Rhoades looks like a **** head for raiding our program of players. Respectable coaches do not do that. Archie Miller isn't raiding Dayton at Indiana. Shaka didn't bring a bunch of VCU guys to Texas.
+1. No respect for that move or the type of players he apparently recruited.

The only conceivable reasons to block Evans from going to VCU are (1) punitive, and (2) to make certain alumni feel better. I think it would have no impact on his or anyone else's decision to leave, and he is probably the only player that would realistically make that move. I see no reason to conclude that Rhodes encouraged Evans or any other player to leave Rice, and I think it is not realistic for anyone to believe that he should tell Evans "no, you can't come to VCU because someone may think it looks bad". It was always very likely that some players would leave Rice when Rhodes decided to move on, whenever that may have been, and under whatever circumstances those were. I wouldn't expect 6 players, but more like 2-3.

That said, there is no reason for me to lose respect for either coach Rhodes or the individual players that decided to move on. They have dedicated a lot of time to becoming very good basketball players and in all honesty, that is the primary if not only reason why we ever knew who any of these kids are. It's reasonable that basketball would play a major role in how and when they decided to move on from Rice. It does not mean that they have character flaws that they chose to do so when their coach decided to move on.
Very well said, my sentiments exactly.
We should definitely go after Josh Parrish. He's transferring from TCU after his freshman year as Dixon brings in a loaded recruiting class.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/1604

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJZj1HIj8PM
(04-18-2017 11:07 PM)Snozberry Wrote: [ -> ]We should definitely go after Josh Parrish. He's transferring from TCU after his freshman year as Dixon brings in a loaded recruiting class.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/1604

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJZj1HIj8PM

07-coffee3
Rhoades is the jerk here. He is the one who ask him to come to VCU. Rhoades is not any better then Tod Graham. He is the second toad as far as I am concerned.
(04-18-2017 06:05 PM)HawaiiOwl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 05:24 PM)I45owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-17-2017 07:39 PM)cr11owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-17-2017 07:19 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: [ -> ]Evans to VCU.
Kaarlgard once again looks like an idiot by not blocking Evans from transferring there.
Rhoades looks like a **** head for raiding our program of players. Respectable coaches do not do that. Archie Miller isn't raiding Dayton at Indiana. Shaka didn't bring a bunch of VCU guys to Texas.
+1. No respect for that move or the type of players he apparently recruited.

The only conceivable reasons to block Evans from going to VCU are (1) punitive, and (2) to make certain alumni feel better. I think it would have no impact on his or anyone else's decision to leave, and he is probably the only player that would realistically make that move. I see no reason to conclude that Rhodes encouraged Evans or any other player to leave Rice, and I think it is not realistic for anyone to believe that he should tell Evans "no, you can't come to VCU because someone may think it looks bad". It was always very likely that some players would leave Rice when Rhodes decided to move on, whenever that may have been, and under whatever circumstances those were. I wouldn't expect 6 players, but more like 2-3.

That said, there is no reason for me to lose respect for either coach Rhodes or the individual players that decided to move on. They have dedicated a lot of time to becoming very good basketball players and in all honesty, that is the primary if not only reason why we ever knew who any of these kids are. It's reasonable that basketball would play a major role in how and when they decided to move on from Rice. It does not mean that they have character flaws that they chose to do so when their coach decided to move on.
Very well said, my sentiments exactly.
(04-18-2017 11:10 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 11:07 PM)Snozberry Wrote: [ -> ]We should definitely go after Josh Parrish. He's transferring from TCU after his freshman year as Dixon brings in a loaded recruiting class.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/1604

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJZj1HIj8PM

07-coffee3

Coach Kreider recently started following him on twitter.
Couple other recruiting notes:

-Looks like we're semi-after (doesn't look like we've officially offered) Jordan Goldwire, a 2017 6-2 G out of Georgia. Offers from UNLV and ASU, among others, with UNLV working hard. Somebody on our staff was in to see him a couple days ago. He's kind of an interesting recruit. Played 24 minutes in the EYBL last summer, which is the best AAU circuit in the country. Averaged ~9 ppg, but was just 17/71 from deep. Weirdly his shot doesn't look bad. Also averaged 3 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2 steals. He also plays for Norcross, which is a HS powerhouse. One kid going to Louisville, another Georgia, another offers from FSU, Tennessee, etc. Goldwire averaged 11 points and 5 assists.

-Guy who we've evidently offered, but I hadn't seen anywhere: 2018 G Benson Lin. Article on him here: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18592...eremy-lin. Certainly an interesting story, and from his highlights, looks like he can play a bit. Kind of weird list of schools and interests. None of the other high academic schools have offered, and he's taken visits to Marshall and WVU.
(04-19-2017 12:55 AM)elw4796 Wrote: [ -> ]Couple other recruiting notes:

-Looks like we're semi-after (doesn't look like we've officially offered) Jordan Goldwire, a 2017 6-2 G out of Georgia. Offers from UNLV and ASU, among others, with UNLV working hard. Somebody on our staff was in to see him a couple days ago. He's kind of an interesting recruit. Played 24 minutes in the EYBL last summer, which is the best AAU circuit in the country. Averaged ~9 ppg, but was just 17/71 from deep. Weirdly his shot doesn't look bad. Also averaged 3 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2 steals. He also plays for Norcross, which is a HS powerhouse. One kid going to Louisville, another Georgia, another offers from FSU, Tennessee, etc. Goldwire averaged 11 points and 5 assists.

Coaches Kreider and Mance both follow Goldwire on twitter. Goldwire follows Coach Mance. Additionally, saw tweets (retweeted by Goldwire) that someone from Rice was going to see him today.

(04-19-2017 12:55 AM)elw4796 Wrote: [ -> ]-Guy who we've evidently offered, but I hadn't seen anywhere: 2018 G Benson Lin. Article on him here: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18592...eremy-lin. Certainly an interesting story, and from his highlights, looks like he can play a bit. Kind of weird list of schools and interests. None of the other high academic schools have offered, and he's taken visits to Marshall and WVU.

Coach Kreider follows Lin on twitter. From the date on that article, looks like his offer from Rice was under Coach Rhoades.
(04-19-2017 12:07 AM)OldOwl Wrote: [ -> ]He is the one who ask him to come to VCU.

If this were true, there would be absolutely no reason for Evans to have ever looked into going elsewhere. That is why I think it is false, but it's very unlikely we will ever know the precise sequence of events and conversations between all of the parties who left the Rice basketball program or did not leave the program.

(04-19-2017 12:07 AM)OldOwl Wrote: [ -> ]Rhoades is not any better then Tod Graham. He is the second toad as far as I am concerned.

We might as well tell coaches in the interview process that we will demonize them on the internet the minute they leave campus. Oh, and we're looking for up and coming coaches that are ambitious enough to build something here and then leverage that to advance their careers. But, they're heroes to the dozens of folks in the stands for some period of time, then we'll demonize them at halftime of one of our football games for the national media to discuss. Please come to Rice!
(04-19-2017 10:26 AM)I45owl Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2017 12:07 AM)OldOwl Wrote: [ -> ]He is the one who ask him to come to VCU.

If this were true, there would be absolutely no reason for Evans to have ever looked into going elsewhere. That is why I think it is false, but it's very unlikely we will ever know the precise sequence of events and conversations between all of the parties who left the Rice basketball program or did not leave the program.

(04-19-2017 12:07 AM)OldOwl Wrote: [ -> ]Rhoades is not any better then Tod Graham. He is the second toad as far as I am concerned.

We might as well tell coaches in the interview process that we will demonize them on the internet the minute they leave campus. Oh, and we're looking for up and coming coaches that are ambitious enough to build something here and then leverage that to advance their careers. But, they're heroes to the dozens of folks in the stands for some period of time, then we'll demonize them at halftime of one of our football games for the national media to discuss. Please come to Rice!

I think there is a huge difference in leaving after 3 years versus leaving after 1 (while alienating a decent percentage of the athletic department at the same time).
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