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Latest info I have is as follows: the 14th school to pair up with Navy will either be a school from the east or a FB only from the west. Early indicators are that adding a school in the east might possibly be the preferred choice. Likely candidates will be Villanova (top choice) followed by - in no particular order - UMASS (possible chief rival for UCONN), Buffalo (to recapture NY state for BE football) or a school from the current CUSA east division. However, strong possibilities of a western expansion are also out there. Expect a possible team to come in from either the MWC or from the WAC.

There is also talk about the possibility that UL, Rutgers and/or UCONN may be invited to another conference. If that happens, the BE will try to invite another school (or schools) to replace the departing schools.

That's the latest I heard on BE expansion. Look forward to hearing from others on their views.
Here is one thing about replacing the departed schools.....with the Big East officially over 12 for 2015 they do have a cushion.

I can't imagine at this point that Louisville, Rutgers and UConn are going anywhere prior to 2014 at the earliest. Therefore I don't anticipate an immediate rush to back fill football members if it was to even become necessary.

Buffalo and UMass have their market based merits. Don't forget Villanova wants to move up. The only remaining CUSA East members are Marshall, ECU, UAB and Southern Miss. I can't imagine UAB is in and Marshall is hurt out of a poor recruiting state in WV.

I have started to think that Southern Miss wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea because they pair nicely with Memphis, Houston and SMU along with ALWAYS being good.

USM to the BE would lead to the collapse of the alliance I'm afraid.
Buffalo only makes sense is if the Bills leave.
Another nonsense post by Miko. He must have naked pictures of the Moderators.
(03-07-2012 10:37 PM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]Latest info I have is as follows: the 14th school to pair up with Navy will either be a school from the east or a FB only from the west. Early indicators are that adding a school in the east might possibly be the preferred choice. Likely candidates will be Villanova (top choice) followed by - in no particular order - UMASS (possible chief rival for UCONN), Buffalo (to recapture NY state for BE football) or a school from the current CUSA east division. However, strong possibilities of a western expansion are also out there. Expect a possible team to come in from either the MWC or from the WAC.

There is also talk about the possibility that UL, Rutgers and/or UCONN may be invited to another conference. If that happens, the BE will try to invite another school (or schools) to replace the departing schools.

That's the latest I heard on BE expansion. Look forward to hearing from others on their views.

I believe the new team will play football and could be from the east of west. Its possible some schools may leave the Big East. The new Big East school could be close to a body of water and may have an "R" in its name.

Miko's post reads like a palm reader was his source.
It was funny the first time you posted this.

The 2nd, 3rd and now 4th time... not so much
Your source? Well if he said it, I guess it is true. And face it. Is it really that hard to tell what their next plan is. Pretty obvious at this point. But way to use your tier 1 education.
The Big East is finished with CUSA schools. This is an urban league full of universities from large media markets that focus primarily on basketball. East Carolina and Southern Mississippi do not fit the culture, direction, or mold. Fans on these websites need to let that notion go and focus on the future.

Villanova is not really moving up. They are simply playing a PR game in hopes that their fan base will grudgingly accept the addition of Temple by clinging to false hopes of potentially moving up. They will do another study, hold meetings that lead to no action, and let the deadline pass without jumping.

Louisville will be replaced by UMass if they are plucked up by the Big 12. I doubt that happens before 2015 though. The 14th football-only member will absolutely come from the West. The Big East is hot and heavy after BYU or Air Force to change their minds before needing to turn to Fresno State.
(03-07-2012 11:21 PM)dogma Wrote: [ -> ]It was funny the first time you posted this.

The 2nd, 3rd and now 4th time... not so much

This thread is for serious discussion only. I would appreciate it if you would refrain from making any juvenile posts. Thank you.
(03-08-2012 01:30 AM)Lolly Popp Wrote: [ -> ]The Big East is finished with CUSA schools. This is an urban league full of universities from large media markets that focus primarily on basketball. East Carolina and Southern Mississippi do not fit the culture, direction, or mold. Fans on these websites need to let that notion go and focus on the future.

Villanova is not really moving up. They are simply playing a PR game in hopes that their fan base will grudgingly accept the addition of Temple by clinging to false hopes of potentially moving up. They will do another study, hold meetings that lead to no action, and let the deadline pass without jumping.

Louisville will be replaced by UMass if they are plucked up by the Big 12. I doubt that happens before 2015 though. The 14th football-only member will absolutely come from the West. The Big East is hot and heavy after BYU or Air Force to change their minds before needing to turn to Fresno State.

The BE vision is basketball first - no doubt about that. The BE invited Boise to join not so much to strengthen football but to save the BE AQ status. Most would say that this is a meaningless statement and that saving AQ vs strengthening football is the same thing. True, the outcome is the same but the thought process is completely different. If the BE AQ status was NOT in danger, Boise would NOT have been invited to join.

I think Villanova has a lot more momentum than you give credit for. Villanova moving up to FBS as a BE member is a basketball move. One less all sports mouth to feed on the BB side. That's why it is so imperative to Nova and the other BB only playing schools for this to happen.

I'm not so sure that another FB playing member will come from the west. If they do, it would most likely be because they would be a FB only member and not become BE basketball members. Again, a western expansion protects basketball - once again. An eastern member, although much more logical and beneficial for the long term of the conference overall, would require an all sports invite. The basketball side does not want that. Therefore, BE will look for more FB only members, which will provide ZERO stability.
(03-08-2012 05:22 AM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2012 11:21 PM)dogma Wrote: [ -> ]It was funny the first time you posted this.

The 2nd, 3rd and now 4th time... not so much

This thread is for serious discussion only. I would appreciate it if you would refrain from making any juvenile posts. Thank you.

I think most of us would appreciate if you would stop creating juvenile threads. 05-nono
Post serious threads... then we can have serious discussions

Thanks
What self respecting western school in their right mind would be added in football only to the Big East lineup at the expense of their other sports? :-)

But seriously though.

UMass and Villanova sounds perfect....for #11 & 12.
Since it appears unlikely that many western schools are going to be added, Boise and SDSU might want to reconsider their affiliation. They're going to have travel issues, and their sports are scattered between conferences...
(03-08-2012 08:58 AM)bitcruncher Wrote: [ -> ]Since it appears unlikely that many western schools are going to be added, Boise and SDSU might want to reconsider their affiliation. They're going to have travel issues, and their sports are scattered between conferences...

Thier travel issues are similar to W Virginias with regard to football. In fact, since thier other sports will be in the WAC, Boise's Olympic Sports travel may even be a bit easier than the Mountaineer's. As long as the Big East TV contract is in the 8-12 million per team range I think Boise will be ok---just as the extra Big-12 dollars will make the travel a non-issue for W Virginia.
(03-08-2012 08:32 AM)dogma Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2012 05:22 AM)miko33 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2012 11:21 PM)dogma Wrote: [ -> ]It was funny the first time you posted this.

The 2nd, 3rd and now 4th time... not so much

This thread is for serious discussion only. I would appreciate it if you would refrain from making any juvenile posts. Thank you.

I think most of us would appreciate if you would stop creating juvenile threads. 05-nono
Post serious threads... then we can have serious discussions

Thanks

I have to admit. I was pretty surprised when he saw that the PAC-12 was moving it's conference tournament to Las Vegas he did not throw a Vegas pitch for the ACC.
I have noticed on his threads that more and more people roll their eyes while reading and end up posting their displeasure for the threads existence. I am pretty sure it is only a matter of time before he goes to find another board to stir up the locals with his ridiculous comments. 04-cheers Here is hoping.
I think we're going to see some western movement pretty soon- if there's the granting of rights that's being talked about with the alliance, some schools will come to the Big East asking(similar to Memphis). Big east would be smart to do this to fortify the WAC in all sports but football for Boise. WAC could be made into a pretty good basketball conference out of this if the right teams move.
I love the ignore list.

miko u were funny 6 months ago, your comedy routine gets old.
When did he have a comedy routine?
If you believe the UNLV fans or not, UNLV is currently spending millions on their sports programs. I posted a thread on their ambitious football stadium a week ago and the word from fans is UNLV is looking at the PAC-12. The UNLV administration knows the conference's will grow to 16 or at the minimum 14 a piece.
The PAC-12 has limited choices based on their culture and academic standards. So UNLV is making themselves as appealing as possible with a football facility that rivals Dallas.
The PAC-12 can rework their TV deal anytime. Vegas would be big for them. But I can't help but wonder if the PAC-12 will have to lower its standards just a bit to keep up with the SEC and Big 10.
I still think The Big East as we know it is only a 2 year solution for most of the schools in it. And I still have my doubts that western schools ever play a down in it. Even though it is politics and will be better for most of the schools involved when the Big East does fold I will be taking a break from this place when it happens. The celebration and mocking from uninvited fans and morons like miko33 will make this place a total joke for a while.
(03-08-2012 10:05 AM)attackfrog Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2012 08:58 AM)bitcruncher Wrote: [ -> ]Since it appears unlikely that many western schools are going to be added, Boise and SDSU might want to reconsider their affiliation. They're going to have travel issues, and their sports are scattered between conferences...

Thier travel issues are similar to W Virginias with regard to football. In fact, since thier other sports will be in the WAC, Boise's Olympic Sports travel may even be a bit easier than the Mountaineer's. As long as the Big East TV contract is in the 8-12 million per team range I think Boise will be ok---just as the extra Big-12 dollars will make the travel a non-issue for W Virginia.

But WVU take in the B12 is probably double what Boise will be getting (if not triple). Its not even close to the same thing...
If the BE goes East again with a UMass or a Buffalo or Villanova moves up, IMO at that point, Boise and SDS will second guess and back out. I don't base this on anything other than everytime a school is added after a certain point for all sports, nobody can convince me that they are adding any more value to the FB side of the media deal, which in turn decreases the amount proportionately that Boise/SDS will receive. Plus the BE is making it pretty clear at that point that the East and BB is and has been the goal the entire time. Even adding all sport schools Houston/UCF shows this point to a degree in that both schools have been recruiting well and have been expected to improve in BB. South Florida has been successful in the league this year, so this aint a stretch. SMU IMO was only added because of the Dallas market and their proximity to Houston. I believe Louisville is gone for sure and some combo of Cincy,Rutgers,Conn will eventually be gone. At that point, market or no market, a USM and Tulsa make sense to compliment Houston, SMU and to close the gap from Boise/SDS not coming. Then the BE may look at an Old Dominion for all sports or some other BB only schools. AQ will be gone and if that's the case (football only Boise and SDS don't make sense anymore).
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