I could be wrong, but I'm taking two things from expansion. 1) We are after large markets. 2) I believe the commish said we are trying to create a western division. That leads me to believe we can narrow potential candidates for #11 & #12 to... San Jose St., Memphis, UNLV or New Mexico. This way UConn, Rutgers, Cincinnati, Louisville, USF and UCF can make up the east. And the rest will be in the west. Those are the largest markets available with football programs in place.
Now that is some reall powerhouse teams. Surely should help BSU make the championship game each year.
(12-07-2011 06:15 PM)army56mike Wrote: [ -> ]I could be wrong, but I'm taking two things from expansion. 1) We are after large markets. 2) I believe the commish said we are trying to create a western division. That leads me to believe we can narrow potential candidates for #11 & #12 to... San Jose St., Memphis, UNLV or New Mexico. This way UConn, Rutgers, Cincinnati, Louisville, USF and UCF can make up the east. And the rest will be in the west. Those are the largest markets available with football programs in place.
Fresno State > San Jose State
Big East is really riding this dissolving of the AQ to the brink. Now, forget the athletic prowess of the schools youre adding. Just think about the market. This isnt very forward thinking. Conferences are made for decades. TV markets arent the future. Soon all sporting events will be broadcast online exclusively via memberships. This will reduce institutional value of a school to its actual following and or package subscription. Me thinks this way of thinking back fires in the long term.
I could be wrong, but I'm taking two things from expansion. 1) We are after large markets. 2) I believe the commish said we are trying to create a western division. That leads me to believe we can narrow potential candidates for #11 & #12 to... San Jose St., Memphis, UNLV or New Mexico. This way UConn, Rutgers, Cincinnati, Louisville, USF and UCF can make up the east. And the rest will be in the west. Those are the largest markets available with football programs in place.
Fresno is the clear cut above the rest..even with this bad year...
(12-07-2011 07:17 PM)NBPirate Wrote: [ -> ]Big East is really riding this dissolving of the AQ to the brink. Now, forget the athletic prowess of the schools youre adding. Just think about the market. This isnt very forward thinking. Conferences are made for decades. TV markets arent the future. Soon all sporting events will be broadcast online exclusively via memberships. This will reduce institutional value of a school to its actual following and or package subscription. Me thinks this way of thinking back fires in the long term.
Thats exactly what I posted weeks ago with the Big XII TV deals. I wonder how powerful and lucrative these TV deals will be in a few years when each school has it's own Web Network. Many are already in place. Mizzou just launched theirs. $79 a year for a full subscription. Think about it...most middle tier schools never see their teams play on TV. The web is the future.
Memphis and Temple. The eight basketball schools are going to want some damage control.
Granted competitively Fresno St. is pretty good. But based on what the commish has said...
San Jose - 945,942 - 10th largest city
Memphis - 646,889 - 20th largest city
UNLV - 583,756 - 30th largest city
New Mexico - 545,852 - 32nd largest city
Fresno St. - 494,665 - 34th largest city
Markets are important but the facilities and performance has to be there.
SDSU has a huge football stadium to work with and have been competitive recently as a deciding factor.
The stadiums at SJSU and Fresno aren't exactly BE par. I guess SJSU could play its home games at a local NFL stadium. UNLV has a 40,000 seat stadium that is less than half full.
East Carolina can deliver the Big East 50,000 fans and by joining the BE can put more distance between the BE and Mount-USA.
ECU will never get in for the same reason USM will never get in.
No market.
End of story.
You would think a school like Memphis with 646,889 people could average 35,000 to it's home games.
(12-07-2011 07:36 PM)SmokinPirate Wrote: [ -> ]You would think a school like Memphis with 646,889 people could average 35,000 to it's home games.
We have. Several times. Not lately.
After we hire our new coach, we should easily get that next season.
(12-07-2011 07:17 PM)NBPirate Wrote: [ -> ]Big East is really riding this dissolving of the AQ to the brink. Now, forget the athletic prowess of the schools youre adding. Just think about the market. This isnt very forward thinking. Conferences are made for decades. TV markets arent the future. Soon all sporting events will be broadcast online exclusively via memberships. This will reduce institutional value of a school to its actual following and or package subscription. Me thinks this way of thinking back fires in the long term.
Pay Per View College Football. Might as well get off the couch at that point and actually go to the game.
So the new teams are coming in 2013? I'm honestly doubting if the conference will even ever play a season as a unit with all the fluidity in conference realignment.
(12-07-2011 07:38 PM)TOGC Wrote: [ -> ] (12-07-2011 07:36 PM)SmokinPirate Wrote: [ -> ]You would think a school like Memphis with 646,889 people could average 35,000 to it's home games.
We have. Several times. Not lately.
After we hire our new coach, we should easily get that next season.
Good luck with that. I'll happily make any sig bet/real bet you want to make that doesn't happen.
They said the exact same thing when they hired Porter. Same song different coach.
(12-07-2011 07:52 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ] (12-07-2011 07:38 PM)TOGC Wrote: [ -> ] (12-07-2011 07:36 PM)SmokinPirate Wrote: [ -> ]You would think a school like Memphis with 646,889 people could average 35,000 to it's home games.
We have. Several times. Not lately.
After we hire our new coach, we should easily get that next season.
Good luck with that. I'll happily make any sig bet/real bet you want to make that doesn't happen.
First things first. I'm still waiting on the new coach to get hired.
(12-07-2011 07:46 PM)ECUPirated Wrote: [ -> ] (12-07-2011 07:17 PM)NBPirate Wrote: [ -> ]Big East is really riding this dissolving of the AQ to the brink. Now, forget the athletic prowess of the schools youre adding. Just think about the market. This isnt very forward thinking. Conferences are made for decades. TV markets arent the future. Soon all sporting events will be broadcast online exclusively via memberships. This will reduce institutional value of a school to its actual following and or package subscription. Me thinks this way of thinking back fires in the long term.
Pay Per View College Football. Might as well get off the couch at that point and actually go to the game.
the time is coming. that is when a school like ECU will be ultra valuable because we have tangible fan interest, not speculative growth numbers and formulas about "potential"
(12-07-2011 08:09 PM)NBPirate Wrote: [ -> ] (12-07-2011 07:46 PM)ECUPirated Wrote: [ -> ] (12-07-2011 07:17 PM)NBPirate Wrote: [ -> ]Big East is really riding this dissolving of the AQ to the brink. Now, forget the athletic prowess of the schools youre adding. Just think about the market. This isnt very forward thinking. Conferences are made for decades. TV markets arent the future. Soon all sporting events will be broadcast online exclusively via memberships. This will reduce institutional value of a school to its actual following and or package subscription. Me thinks this way of thinking back fires in the long term.
Pay Per View College Football. Might as well get off the couch at that point and actually go to the game.
the time is coming. that is when a school like ECU will be ultra valuable because we have tangible fan interest, not speculative growth numbers and formulas about "potential"
Looks like Memphis might be getting Justin Fuente, OC for TCU, as their next head coach.