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Are there plans down the road for a new stadium or is the school content playing in eagle stadium? Just wondering.
Why wouldn't you want your own stadium? In the long run it will make Temple football more accessable for students and alumni, and will make more money to use your own facility instead of having to rent out Eagle stadium, and you won't have to work around the Eagles schedule either.
This has been kicked around for the last 20 Years. I think many of us Temple fans would love to see our own stadium on campus. I do not see that happening. I think that the admininstraton is happy with the renting the Eagles stadium. We did get a fifteen (15) year lease. With our pass performs on the field the stadium has been only about 1/3 filled which makes the stadium look empty. I would like to see an on campus stadium of about 35,000 and when we play a Penn State then move the game to the Linc. More important than our own stadium is to get a winning football team. Wtih our new coach, I feel we will get to our goal of producing a good product and making a few bowl games.
YES,YES,YES,...... the fans and the team do. A nice 30-35,000 seat place, much like UCONN. they were 1aa and now they are ahead of TU. They did all of that in about 5 years I f they can do it so can Temple... And screw that make PSU play a the new place no moving it to the linc, just so psu fields can go.
Being a true division 1A football team involves having your own stadium. We would love to see our own stadium on campus! I hoped to see that happen during the time I was in school, but it didn't. As mentioned earlier, a business plan was proposed to President Liacourous, who was the University President at the time, not very long ago. Of course, the plan for a 35,000 seat, on-campus, football stadium fell about 41 million dollars short. Thus, the University President opted to negotiate a deal, with the Philadelphia Eagles, which would allow Temple to be the official tenents of Lincoln Financial Field on Saturdays. Therefore, the Philadelphia Eagles will make one million dollars a year for fifteen years just for allowing Temple to host their games at the LINC. The stadium is nice but it isn't a true college stadium, and it does not have that college feel to it. Now, an on campus stadium is the last piece that is missing from the puzzle.

anyway, got to go.

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Eagles would be fine
sorry, trying to get picture
we need that stadium to succeed.
While having a stadium on campus is likely the most commonly prefered arrangement, look at a few exceptions of success off campus: USC in LA Coliseum , UCLA Rose Bowl , Memphis in Liberty Bowl , Miami in Orange Bowl as examples of where the off campus stadium has not hindred product on the field.

On the other hand UM Gofers abandoning Rollerdome for a new stadium near to campus.

It raises an interesting Q for me to research. Where do teams such as these located in or near big cities play: Cincy, Tulane, SMU, Houston, UMass, Rutgers, etc.
I think they need to go with a smaller, on campus stadium. When you get better, and play some big teams, you can sell it out and get a great home field advantage. I agree that a Penn state or Miami (or any big school) you get to play at home needs to be kept at a campus stadium.
An aticle in Sunsay's inquirer about Temple needing their own stadium by Steve A. Smith. 11/12/06 Compares how Rutgers has an on campus stadium to Temple who has to use the Linc.
I def. agree with the article that until a small on campus stadium happens TU will never trully compete on the field in games with recruits or with alumni and boosters. Just imagine the shot in the arm it would give the University if a stadium did happen.
Eagles/Jeff Lurie are whores.

Invest the money instead of pissing it away.
Rutgers, Cincy, SMU, and UMASS have their own campus stadiums. Not sure where Houston plays, and Tulane(god bless 'em), may have to rebuild due to Katrina.
I have been strongly in favor of an oncampus stadium. It would help to further develop the campus and more students would come to games. It would also be an opportunity for alumni to visit. Perhaps a 30k to 40k stadium would be ideal. It was once proposed but the president felt that the politics involved along with the fundraising would be too much of a burden.
But the good news is that the NFL stadium is getting a big entertainment center next door. So the area where the stadium is located is really going to be fantastic with so much going on.
But once the team has a few winning Big East seasons, we need to work on our own stadium and save the NFL stadium for Penn State and Notre Dame games.
(03-21-2012 02:47 AM)Philly Brian Wrote: [ -> ]I have been strongly in favor of an oncampus stadium. It would help to further develop the campus and more students would come to games. It would also be an opportunity for alumni to visit. Perhaps a 30k to 40k stadium would be ideal. It was once proposed but the president felt that the politics involved along with the fundraising would be too much of a burden.
But the good news is that the NFL stadium is getting a big entertainment center next door. So the area where the stadium is located is really going to be fantastic with so much going on.
But once the team has a few winning Big East seasons, we need to work on our own stadium and save the NFL stadium for Penn State and Notre Dame games.

I agree 100%. The Linc has been good to us though. Who would have ever imagined it would be such a large asset in the power struggle Nova tried to wage against Temple?
The whole ordeal Temple went through to get by Nova into the Big East leads me to feel we can take our time vacating the Linc. Once Nova ends their pursuit of FBS, then lets start building. 04-rock
(03-21-2012 02:47 AM)Philly Brian Wrote: [ -> ]I have been strongly in favor of an oncampus stadium. It would help to further develop the campus and more students would come to games. It would also be an opportunity for alumni to visit. Perhaps a 30k to 40k stadium would be ideal. It was once proposed but the president felt that the politics involved along with the fundraising would be too much of a burden.
But the good news is that the NFL stadium is getting a big entertainment center next door. So the area where the stadium is located is really going to be fantastic with so much going on.
But once the team has a few winning Big East seasons, we need to work on our own stadium and save the NFL stadium for Penn State and Notre Dame games.

Oh Jesus. Not here too...
UConn's stadium isn't owned by the school, and isn't on campus, it's just outside of downtown Hartford (in East Hartford), campus is several towns farther east in Storrs...
I know I’m coming a bit late to the party on this one, but this is a topic that always seems to stir emotions in Temple football fans.

I think there is no question that a 35,000 on campus stadium would be a tremendous boost to the Temple football product. From a perception standpoint (30,000 in Lincoln Financial Field looks like no one is at the game), an energy standpoint (see above, it’s tough getting the emotions running hot when the place is less than half full) and from a ticket sales standpoint (people always want what they can’t have, and don’t care about what comes easy, less seats means the tickets are tougher to get which means they will be in higher demand).

Now the reality of the situation. Those who are familiar with the campus, just where would you propose to locate this stadium on campus? People have mentioned Rutgers and their on campus stadium, I have been there its beautiful, but keep in mind Rutgers has a lot of open space on their campus, its over 2,600 acres. By comparison, Temple’s campus covers 105 acres.

Paying for it is another issue. Using the new Meadowlands stadium as an example because it was recently completed and is state of the art. The cost of the project came in at 1.3 Billion, so say you can do the job for half of that amount because it’s smaller and doesn’t need to be as elaborate, that’s a cool $650,000,000. Let’s just say it can be done with some creative financing, one third of it through alumni and friends of Temple donations, one third through the sale of Bonds, and one third funded by Temple (the state of PA), that’s still $216,million each. In this time of tax heights and budget cuts where is that money going to come from? Temple had a tough enough time justifying the buyout figures from the MAC and A-10, they will have a real tough time selling this one.

This is my long winded way of saying I think it’s a great idea, but it’s a luxury not a necessity, I just don’t see it happening anytime soon.
(04-12-2012 02:19 PM)NYCTUFan Wrote: [ -> ]I know I’m coming a bit late to the party on this one, but this is a topic that always seems to stir emotions in Temple football fans.

I think there is no question that a 35,000 on campus stadium would be a tremendous boost to the Temple football product. From a perception standpoint (30,000 in Lincoln Financial Field looks like no one is at the game), an energy standpoint (see above, it’s tough getting the emotions running hot when the place is less than half full) and from a ticket sales standpoint (people always want what they can’t have, and don’t care about what comes easy, less seats means the tickets are tougher to get which means they will be in higher demand).

Now the reality of the situation. Those who are familiar with the campus, just where would you propose to locate this stadium on campus? People have mentioned Rutgers and their on campus stadium, I have been there its beautiful, but keep in mind Rutgers has a lot of open space on their campus, its over 2,600 acres. By comparison, Temple’s campus covers 105 acres.

Paying for it is another issue. Using the new Meadowlands stadium as an example because it was recently completed and is state of the art. The cost of the project came in at 1.3 Billion, so say you can do the job for half of that amount because it’s smaller and doesn’t need to be as elaborate, that’s a cool $650,000,000. Let’s just say it can be done with some creative financing, one third of it through alumni and friends of Temple donations, one third through the sale of Bonds, and one third funded by Temple (the state of PA), that’s still $216,million each. In this time of tax heights and budget cuts where is that money going to come from? Temple had a tough enough time justifying the buyout figures from the MAC and A-10, they will have a real tough time selling this one.

This is my long winded way of saying I think it’s a great idea, but it’s a luxury not a necessity, I just don’t see it happening anytime soon.

I agree. I also want to point out that building a stadium on campus would be a HUGE fight with the locals who fight Temple on just about every new building. A stadium would almost certainly mean that Temple would have to purchase some additionally property (even though we own more than people realize) and build on property that we currently own that isn't developed. This means expanding the foot print of main campus which has sent local groups into hysterics over the past 15 years.

Given that city hall has even considered laws to ban Temple undergrads from renting in the areas off of main campus, I can see a fight between city hall and Temple over where people would park to get to the stadium. I would expect we would have to build several new parking garages as part of the deal which would up the price.

Bottom line, I would love to have a stadium, but the cost to build one using only expensive unions and having to make concessions to the city to keep the neighborhood happy would be such a huge mess.

On a side note, I heard from a source that we have purchased a lot of property behind the regional rail for a potential future stadium. That is a bad area of town and we'd get less fighting from locals about building there...but it'd still be expensive.
Interestingly, none of the posts on this topic has included an update on the proposal that Temple send to the City to build an on-campus stadium.

The proposal was rejected by the City for the same reason that the City rejected the Phillies' proposal to build a downtown stadium, which focused in both cases on the adverse impact a stadium would have on the neighborhood community, on traffic congestion, etc.

Besides, most of those who post on the other Temple message boards have made a compelling argument why it is better for play it's home games at the Eagles' stadium..
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